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slaneman

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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2018, 06:11:15 PM »

Now that I have seen that "mumbling version," I'm pretty sure that's what is on the VHS version of The Unforgettable Fire Collection. I remember watching it many years ago and wondering what Bono was mumbling. But I totally forgot.

EDIT: I just checked U2.com and they have this alternate "mumbling" version as well... http://www.u2.com/media/player/133/1

Yep. I have a nice rip direct from the VHS version of The Unforgettable Fire Collection (courtesy of Scarlet) and it's the 'mumbling' version. I've always thought Bono was saying something like "sometimes we go" in a little sing song voice, but only the shadow knows for sure.

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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2018, 10:21:07 AM »
Having a snow day off here at the old folks home, I decided to dig out a few pairs of headphones and listen to various TUF versions I have on file. Thanks to MDuchek for noticing this variation.

The first 3 are the normal album versions.

US CD 422 822 898-2
US 12” 90231-4
US Cassette 7 90231-4

There are a zillion other TUF album versions in other compilations. I have various cassette, vinyl, and CD rips but not infinite time to describe these. The ones I listened to are all similar. Thankfully it's one of of favorite U2 tracks and I'm used to listening a million times in a row to the same song.

Despite playing these at ear bleed level I could not hear that Bono phrase at the start of the song, “Oh shit, I'm sorry,”  which is in the lyrics database.  Can anyone else?

http://www.u2songs.com/songs/the_unforgettable_fire_-_studio_455


The Unforgettable Fire Collection VHS US 433 966 053-6
Video Sampler  (VHS Promo)  UK BOU2 – 1

Now these 2 have the 'mumbling' version. Like MDuchek pointed out, there are other musical differences at the beginning. The Video Sampler VHS is from 1987. I was hoping it might be more revealing for that Bono mumble at the start. Maybe , “sometimes we know”







Thanks again to the Scarlet collection

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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2018, 11:00:13 AM »
By plan or by chance, many of the 'lost' 80's videos that didn't show up on the Best Of 80's VHS comp were eventually released in remastered format on the AB Super Deluxe amongst others. ASOH, Bad and Pride 2 showed up on DVD in the extras of Go Home. I believe more showed up on the 20th anniversary of JT.

Angel of Harlem, Sunday Bloody Sunday (Live at Red Rocks) and A Celebration are included in this set for the AB DLX 20.

I think the only rational thing to do is to create an 80's video remaster video project/list for completests and format warriors. 
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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2018, 08:01:05 AM »
Speaking of the 80s - I noticed that the YouTube video linked here (http://www.u2songs.com/videos/the_unforgettable_fire) is different from what is in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feMcb7-MOsg.

Particularly, in the latter video, the intro. is slightly different, and omits the guitar sound and has a few spoken words.  Anyone ever notice this different "video version"?

Holy cow you're right! The clip hosted on U2Songs is the album version, but that other one is... something different. No guitar sounds on the intro, just piano, and some mumbling from Bono. Wow. Plus the video clips are different. Nice find!

Now that I have seen that "mumbling version," I'm pretty sure that's what is on the VHS version of The Unforgettable Fire Collection. I remember watching it many years ago and wondering what Bono was mumbling. But I totally forgot.

EDIT: I just checked U2.com and they have this alternate "mumbling" version as well... http://www.u2.com/media/player/133/1

The "mumbling version" is the version found on the following releases:

* The Best of 1980 - 1990
* The Unforgettable Fire Collection (VHS)
* The 25th Anniversary box of The Unforgettable Fire
* The Slane Castle DVD

It's the video we should have linked on the site. The mumbling version was also the one sent out for promotion, to music channels and the like.  Slaneman also confirmed its on the Video Sampler promo above. It's difficult to find videos from that era on Youtube that aren't regularly pulled down by Universal, so finding the one that was linked on the site I stopped looking and didn't recognize the differences.

The one we did link? It's the album version of the song. And those 'alternate scenes' at the start? They are all in the mumble video as well.  Just taken out of order and reedited. That video has been edited to add in the subtitles, and there's some funky transitions between scenes, and some of the scenes repeat.  I'm pretty sure the version we linked was a fan made edit. That being said, there's no other copy of this one that I can find, other than the one Mike shared which is filmed at a strange angle for some reason and doesn't give a good viewing experience.  Anyone out there able to spot a full version on a video sharing service that we could embed a video from?

I've replaced the video on the site with a "Video Not Available" notice rather than linking to something that was likely fan made.
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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2018, 09:20:26 AM »
Speaking of mumbles, does 'five feet to the moon' ring a bell for anyone? It seems to be jogged in my memory it could be from this song or another.

It's easy to forget how much of an artistic leap this video was when it came out.
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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2018, 10:00:49 AM »
Re-evaluating all of this has made me fall in love with the "mumbling version." I love how it starts cold with the piano rather than the guitar. It's a totally different intro for the song. Does anyone have a good rip of this audio from the UF anniversary DVD? I want to put this version (the audio) in my iTunes library!

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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2018, 12:19:25 PM »
Would anyone be interested in adding to the 80's video list and documenting where the last release was? This will help us track where it was released on DVD, VHS or online. Please make suggestions about format.

I'll copy Aaron's list to start:

"I Will Follow" (Studio Video by Meiert Avis) [03:36] Best Of 80 VHS
"Gloria" (Meiert Avis) [03:44]N/A
"A Celebration" (Meiert Avis) [02:58]AB 20 SUPER
"New Year's Day" (Meiert Avis) [04:17]U218 DVD
"Two Hearts Beat as One" (Meiert Avis) [04:02]N/A
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Version 1 - Sepia by Donald Cammell) [04:06]U218DVD
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Version 1 - Colour by Donald Cammell) [04:06]UF DVD 2009
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Version 2 - Slane by Barry Devlin) [03:45]U218 DVD
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Version 3 - Faces Version by Anton Corbijn) [03:47]N/A
"The Unforgettable Fire" (Meiert Avis) [04:55]UF DVD 2009
"A Sort of Homecoming" (Tour Video by Barry Devlin) [04:04] UF DVD 2009
"Bad" (Tour Video by Barry Devlin) [07:59] UF DVD 2009
"With or Without You" (Main Version by Meiert Avis and Matt Mahurin) [04:55]JT 20 DVD
"With or Without You" (Alternate Version by Matt Mahurin) [04:45]JT 20 DVD
"I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" (Barry Devlin) [04:31]JT 20 DVD
"Where the Streets Have No Name" (Full Version by Meiert Avis) [07:12]JT 20 DVD
"In God's Country" (From "Outside it's America" by Barry Devlin) [02:56]JT 20 DVD
"Spanish Eyes" (From "Outside it's America" by Barry Devlin) [03:16]JT 20 DVD
"Where the Streets Have No Name" (Alternate Version by Meiert Avis) [05:03]iTunes UK
"Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" (Phil Joanou) [02:21]AVSC DVD 2007
"Desire" (Richard Lowenstein) [03:26]U218 DVD
"Desire" (Hollywood Remix by Richard Lowenstein) [05:23] N/A
"When Love Comes to Town" (Short Version by Phil Joanou) [03:22]N/A
"When Love Comes to Town" (Alternate Version by Phil Joanou) [04:10]N/A
"When Love Comes to Town" (Long Version by Phil Joanou) [05:00]Best Of 80 VHS
"All I Want is You" (Meiert Avis) [06:37]Best Of 80 VHS
"Red Hill Mining Town" (Neil Jordan) [05:43]JT 20 DVD
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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2018, 12:32:48 PM »
Would anyone be interested in adding to the 80's video list and documenting where the last release was? This will help us track where it was released on DVD, VHS or online. Please make suggestions about format.

I'll copy Aaron's list to start:

"I Will Follow" (Studio Video by Meiert Avis) [03:36] Best Of 80 VHS
"Gloria" (Meiert Avis) [03:44]
"A Celebration" (Meiert Avis) [02:58]
"New Year's Day" (Meiert Avis) [04:17]
"Two Hearts Beat as One" (Meiert Avis) [04:02]
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Version 1 - Sepia by Donald Cammell) [04:06]
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Version 1 - Colour by Donald Cammell) [04:06]
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Version 2 - Slane by Barry Devlin) [03:45]
"Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Version 3 - Faces Version by Anton Corbijn) [03:47]
"The Unforgettable Fire" (Meiert Avis) [04:55]
"A Sort of Homecoming" (Tour Video by Barry Devlin) [04:04]
"Bad" (Tour Video by Barry Devlin) [07:59]
"With or Without You" (Main Version by Meiert Avis and Matt Mahurin) [04:55]
"With or Without You" (Alternate Version by Matt Mahurin) [04:45]
"I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" (Barry Devlin) [04:31]
"Where the Streets Have No Name" (Full Version by Meiert Avis) [07:12]
"In God's Country" (From "Outside it's America" by Barry Devlin) [02:56]
"Spanish Eyes" (From "Outside it's America" by Barry Devlin) [03:16]
"Where the Streets Have No Name" (Alternate Version by Meiert Avis) [05:03]
"Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" (Phil Joanou) [02:21]
"Desire" (Richard Lowenstein) [03:26]
"Desire" (Hollywood Remix by Richard Lowenstein) [05:23]
"Angel of Harlem" (Richard Lowenstein) [03:41]
"When Love Comes to Town" (Short Version by Phil Joanou) [03:22]
"When Love Comes to Town" (Alternate Version by Phil Joanou) [04:10]
"When Love Comes to Town" (Long Version by Phil Joanou) [05:00]
"All I Want is You" (Meiert Avis) [06:37]
"Red Hill Mining Town" (Neil Jordan) [05:43]

If you go into the video section and go into the individual entries it will show what releases these are all available on.

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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2018, 12:34:13 PM »
Great Aaron. I'll cross reference it. I've always wanted to make a homemade DVD of titles. 

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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2018, 02:31:26 PM »
Does anyone have a good rip of this audio from the UF anniversary DVD? I want to put this version (the audio) in my iTunes library!

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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2018, 05:21:37 PM »
In summary, 7 titles are not available commercially but maybe online streaming. One of those videos is WLCTT from R&H.

3 titles haven't been released on DVD and these include IWF, AIWIY and WLCTT.

You would need to buy videos from 7 sources before you were a complete owner of all 80s videos not withstanding the 7 tracks that are N/A on physical form.

Feel free to critique, chime in.

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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2018, 10:21:28 PM »
Gloria, Two Hearts, and Desire (Hollywood Remix) were briefly available to purchase on iTunes in the US back in 2007. Unfortunately when everything was still copy protected.

ETA: It looks like the Desire video is back, now available without copy protection.
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Re: The Best of 1990-2000 DVD
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2018, 03:26:07 PM »
on iTunes UK there is a video called "FEZ" that runs for over 4 minutes. It's basically footage from the Riad in said city.