u2songs.com: Running to Stand Still
Site Related => Discography & Releases => Topic started by: morgan1098 on October 17, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
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U2 will have a new song in the "Mandela" movie called "Ordinary Love." It can be heard in the trailer (premiering tonight) and I think the U2.com fan club will also have it after 6:30 EDT. I'm guessing this is a separate track and not part of the new album, but who knows?
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/10/17/bono-u2-write-and-record-new-song-for-mandela-movie
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The fan club just had the trailer for subscribers. Disappointing as it went live at Yahoo at the same time so really wasn't much of an exclusive for subscribers.
After the whole "Tune in we'll have a big surprise" which lead to the Tiesto remix of Pride I should have known better than to expect too much. But I did hope that U2.com would make it a genuine special after learning in advance that the trailer would have a U2 song in it. Would have been nice to have a stream of the new song. I'd even take a snippet of the song without all the movie trailer over top. Missed opportunity.
Now after the Tiesto remix, and now this, next time U2.com announces a big surprise I won't be rushing to log in. Feel doubly stupid because I drove into work last night because of a better internet connection which I thought would improve things if it was something exciting.
Still a nice song. Trying to find out now if there will be a physical soundtrack release.
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An Irish radio station said there will definitely be a soundtrack release, but then again it was just excited DJs speculating. Who knows?
I wonder if this track is Danger Mouse-produced? From the info on U2.com it sounds like the band just recorded this during their recent return to New York. So I'm guessing it won't be on the new album, or maybe it will be on the album in a different mix (as in the different album and movie versions of Hands That Built America, Elevation, Winter, etc.)
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Feel doubly stupid because I drove into work last night because of a better internet connection which I thought would improve things if it was something exciting.
No reason to feel stupid. That's just what a real fan does. We're all guilty of some laughable actions for U2. :)
I seriously imagined they'd drop a new single from the forthcoming album. Hmm.
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Apparently a FULL version of the song will appear on U2.com and YouTube tomorrow. This was reported in an Irish newspaper, although I haven't seen any other evidence that it will actually happen.
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UPDATE: U2 will have a 10" vinyl of "Ordinary Love" b/w "Breath" for Record Store Day/Black Friday in November.
http://www.bullmoose.com/p/15512958
PS... I'm guessing "Breath" is actually "Breathe"--probably a live version.
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UPDATE: U2 will have a 10" vinyl of "Ordinary Love" b/w "Breath" for Record Store Day/Black Friday in November.
http://www.bullmoose.com/p/15512958
PS... I'm guessing "Breath" is actually "Breathe"--probably a live version.
It may be the alternate version of "Breathe" that was used in the "Africa Rising" documentary a few months back. :)
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More RSD madness!! Only 10,000 copies!! This is gonna be fun. :)
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First "Wide Awake in Europe" and now this. How infuriating! I detest vinyl and refuse to buy it! What is the logic behind these exclusive format releases?! It's worse than retailer exclusives!
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According to indie seller "Bull Moose," who I believe broke the news about the 10-inch, the b-side is indeed "Breath" and not "Breathe," and is new music. Hmmm.
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/its-time-for-the-black-friday-2013-rsd-thread.328931/page-6#post-9578887
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I wonder how long it will take U2.com to break this exclusive news to us...
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According to indie seller "Bull Moose," who I believe broke the news about the 10-inch, the b-side is indeed "Breath" and not "Breathe," and is new music. Hmmm.
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/its-time-for-the-black-friday-2013-rsd-thread.328931/page-6#post-9578887
The u2.com article clearly says that it is "Breathe".
"Ordinary Love, a new song written for the upcoming movie Mandela: Long Walk To Freedom, will be released in a 10-inch vinyl pressing to mark Record Store Day on November 29th.
The sleeve artwork features a striking painting of Nelson Mandela by Irish artist and illustrator Oliver Jeffers. Oliver has also directed a lyric video for Ordinary Love which we'll carry on U2.com during November.
The band wrote the new song at the invitation of movie producer Harvey Weinstein and the b-side of the Record Store Day release will feature a second track, Breathe, another song with a Mandela connection.
We'll have copies of the vinyl release up for grabs in a competition next month.
Stay tuned..."
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151617927926612
Perhaps a hint of the upcoming "lyric video" - graffiti on the sides of building for the lyrics?
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http://www.amazon.com/Mandela-Long-Walk-Freedom-Soundtrack/dp/B00G0RTNFA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1383137064&sr=8-2&keywords=mandela+soundtrack
Amazon.com listing now lists artists:
U2 (Artist), Public Enemy (Artist), Gil Scott-Heron (Artist), Bob Marley (Artist)
Format: Audio CD
Under Editorial Reviews it lists:
A mix of political movement songs; Public Enemys Fight The Power, Bob Marleys War, Gil Scott-Herons The Revolution will not be Revolutionized and cast recordings of South African chants
The Movie: A chronicle of Nelson Mandelas life journey from his childhood in a rural village through to his inauguration as the first democratically elected president of South Africa.
Current release date is listed as November 25th, although it's likely to be the 26th in North America. That would put it out on CD a few days before the release of the single on vinyl.
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I wonder if there's a chance that "Breathe" will also appear on the Mandela soundtrack? Since it was already used in the documentary, I'm guessing not. But it would be nice to have it on CD rather than confined to a RSD vinyl.
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Just had this confirmed for me. :)
Side A: "Ordinary Love" - new song
Side B: "Breathe (The Mandela Version)" - new recording
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North American release only? Europe? Is Black Friday RSD even done in Europe?
That Bullmoose site mentioned 10,000 copies but now I'm not so sure of their info--
Another Wide Awake fiasco? Oh boy ::) Another field day for the Ebay gougers if these are numbered...
Edit--just read u2tour.de front page--they say 10,000 with 6500 for N. America.
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Hi slaneman --
The 10,000 with 6500 for North America came from me. A local supplier told me that and it was later confirmed by a second online shop. That's what stores who are being offered a chance to order are being told for quantities. Bullmoose also listed 10000 copies. "Wide Awake in Europe" was limited to 5000 copies. "Wide Awake" also had a brand new, never before released song on it in "Mercy". While "Ordinary Love" is new, it's being released earlier that week on CD on the soundtrack most likely. That leaves the alternate version of "Breathe". Not sure that's enough to get the attention of the U2 fan bases.
I expect this one to land up on eBay fairly quickly. And probably with inflated prices. But with twice as many copies, and possibly less interest in it once people realize the song is available on CD, it may be easier to obtain.
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Looks like Amazon has moved the release date of the soundtrack to 12/10. The score is still scheduled for 11/25.
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Looks like Amazon has moved the release date of the soundtrack to 12/10. The score is still scheduled for 11/25.
How many times a day are you looking at that Amazon listing?!
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Ha. I actually got an email from them saying the release date had changed.
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Well, it's 10:55 PM on Friday (November 1, 2013) over here in the Mountain Time zone (US) . . . . . and I just checked U2.com hoping to hear a full version of Ordinary Love, but I don't see available yet. I'm not interested in hearing a snippet of a new track. I will happily wait for the full version.
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Well, it's 10:55 PM on Friday (November 1, 2013) over here in the Mountain Time zone (US) . . . . . and I just checked U2.com hoping to hear a full version of Ordinary Love, but I don't see available yet. I'm not interested in hearing a snippet of a new track. I will happily wait for the full version.
I heard that the video isn't ready to go yet, and that's what will be debuted in full. Maybe this week coming up. Not the first time they widely missed a date on a video. Remember "Boots"? It seemed to take forever to come out...
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Ha. I actually got an email from them saying the release date had changed.
It also appears that they've removed U2 as a listed artist on the amazon.com site. :(
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Amazon UK track listings for "Mandela: Long Walk To Freedom" OST: (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mandela-Freedom-Original-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B00G0RTIBE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1383998050&sr=1-1&keywords=Mandela+Long+Walk+To+Freedom)
1. Mzala - The Havana Swingsters
2. Hoya Rona - Tony Kgoroge, Mandela OST Cast
3. Be My Guest - The Manhattan Brothers
4. Afrika Will Be Saved - Mandela OST Cast
5. Jikela Emaweni - The Manhattan Brothers
6. Kaphume Aphendlini - Dizu Plaatjies
7. Long Trousers Kwela - Elias Lerole
8. Quickly In Love - Todd Matshikiza, Pat Williams
9. Amuck - Art Blakey
10. War - Bob Marley & The Wailers
11. Bahleli bonke eTilongweni - Mandela OST Cast
12. The Revolution Will Not Be Televised - Gil Scott-Heron
13. Nelson Mandela - The Special AKA
14. Thetha no Botha/Siyaya ePitoli - Innocent Modiba
15. Thula Baba - Mandela OST Cast
16. Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika - Mandela OST Cast
17. Ordinary Love - U2
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Amazon UK track listings for "Mandela: Long Walk To Freedom" OST: (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mandela-Freedom-Original-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B00G0RTIBE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1383998050&sr=1-1&keywords=Mandela+Long+Walk+To+Freedom)
17. Ordinary Love - U2
Bummer. The b-side from the vinyl single is M.I.A.
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Amazon UK track listings for "Mandela: Long Walk To Freedom" OST: (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mandela-Freedom-Original-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B00G0RTIBE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1383998050&sr=1-1&keywords=Mandela+Long+Walk+To+Freedom)
17. Ordinary Love - U2
Bummer. The b-side from the vinyl single is M.I.A.
Me too. :(
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Amazon UK track listings for "Mandela: Long Walk To Freedom" OST: (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mandela-Freedom-Original-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B00G0RTIBE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1383998050&sr=1-1&keywords=Mandela+Long+Walk+To+Freedom)
17. Ordinary Love - U2
Bummer. The b-side from the vinyl single is M.I.A.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is not the b-side Breath(alternate "Mandela Version" version), so whats MIA - missing in action ?
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It means the b-side from the single is missing from the soundtrack album.
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It means the b-side from the single is missing from the soundtrack album.
Thanks for clarifying.
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Oh, and based on viewings of the movie, it appears "Ordinary Love" is produced by Danger Mouse, and that there is another snippet of U2 music in the film that may not be part of "Ordinary Love". The reviewer commented about the sound of African chanting over a riff from Edge's guitar. But it doesn't appear to be listed on the soundtrack either, so maybe just a brief instrumental piece (or perhaps something not even U2 related?)
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Have to say I am really looking forward to getting a copy of this on RSD, I want to hear and like some new material, this has the possibility of being something great, this could finally bring U2 and Bono especially that award they want and are missing.
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Here's a small (mobile version?) of the video with full audio! Aaron, feel free to delete this if this is not kosher. As far as I know this is legit.
https://store.mobilerider.com/api/facebook_share.php?vendor=692&media=70863&player=universal&service=1&extras=skin%3Au2%2Cautoplay%3A0%2Cautohide%3A1%2Ccontinuous%3A1&rnd=1385054984
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heh--you're hanging out at Hoffman's...I just saw it there as well
Love it!! TX Bono for laying out the lyrics.
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Ha! Yes, I got it at the Hoffman forum, which usually isn't a great source for U2 news. In fact, it's usually a place for U2-bashing.
I also just got an e-mail from U2.com with a link to the video, which is apparently going to "premiere" later today...
EDIT: If you're a U2.com subscriber, the video is now available in a much higher resolution than what I linked above.
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I was able to download the U2.com video to my phone using an app called "Free Video Downloader Plus." I'll have to wait until I get home to make an MP3 of it.
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In case anyone is interested, the Facebook video has a bit higher quality audio than the U2.com version. It's also 720p video compared to only 320p, though oddly the U2.com file is actually slightly larger. The Facebook 720p version looks just fine, even blown up on my 55" TV.
Details:
U2.com version
Video: H.264, 480x320 (letterboxed), 24 fps, 1523 kbps
Audio: AAC, 128 kbps
Facebook version
Video: H.264, 1280x720, 24 fps, 1488 kbps
Audio: AAC, 150 kbps
Hopefully they will put this on their official YouTube page soon. The audio and video bitrates are usually a bit higher.
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Actually, this video on u2.com available in several (5) bitrates. The most higher quality is:
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 30fps 4256kbps [Video]
Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 154kbps [Audio]
112 MB
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Hmmm, I will have to try redownloading it.
ETA:
Andrey, I can see the manifest with the five different bitrates available, but my browser always selects the bitrate automatically. Is there a way to force it to pick the highest bitrate?
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Got it. Just have to eliminate all but one of the five numbers in the URL to get the stream you want.
Cheers.
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I watched the video on U2.com and I love the new song Ordinary Love. :)
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It's up on VEVO in 1080p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC3ahd6Di3M
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As I suspected, the audio bitrate is a little better on YouTube, 192 kbps.
The 1080p version from U2.com still has the highest video bitrate.
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No, YouTube also have 1080p version, but in DASH format only (your browser must support this). About quality:
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 23.974fps 2735kbps [Video]
Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 253kbps [Audio]
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Once again, Andrey, you are teaching me something about "new media." ;)
Downloading now.
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Andrey, your killing me.
I managed to download the DASH audio stream but I couldn't find anything that would play it. Finally got it to work after repairing it on the command line with FFMPEG. :P
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You guys are talking Esperanto ;)
(http://u2blog.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/n131125_02.jpg)
(http://u2blog.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/n131125_01.jpg)
Download coupon included - nice one!
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The album will be released in limited quantities in UK and Ireland. The release is 2nd December in the UK. The list posted at U2.com show the following participating retailers:
UK:
Action Records (Preston), Crash Records (Leeds), Head (Bristol, Bromley, Leamington Spa, Warrington, Western Supermare, Belfast), JG Windows (Newcastle upon Tyne), Jumbo Records (Leeds), Piccadilly Records (Manchester), Record Collector (Sheffield), Reflex (Newcastle Upon Tyne), Banquet Records (Kingston), David's Music (Letchworth), Herrick Watson LTD (Skegness), Soundclash (Norwich), Phonica Records (London), Resident Music (Brighton), Rough Trade East (London), Rough Trade West (London), Sister Ray (London), Avalanche (Edinburgh), Rapture Entertainment LTD (Witney, Evesham, Oxford), Rise Records (Bristol, Cheltenham, Worcester), Spillers (Cardiff)
Ireland:
Tower Records, Freebird, Music Zone
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:D
:::thank you! finally news with weight, size and shirnkwrap plastic! 8)
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:D
:::thank you! finally news with weight, size and shirnkwrap plastic! 8)
Even a sticker :)
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Wow, the inclusion of a download card makes this more desirable for me. I'll be traveling on Black Friday and I didn't have the foresight to pre-order a copy, so if anyone comes up with extras, remember me! :)
Other interesting observations from the back cover:
*Backing vox on Ordinary Love are by Edge, Larry, and Angel. I could have almost sworn I heard a choir on there, but I guess that's the magic of multi-tracking.
*Backing vox on Breathe by Edge, Larry AND Adam! :)
*Breathe seems to be a totally new recording rather than a remix. But I guess we knew that.
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*Breathe seems to be a totally new recording rather than a remix. But I guess we knew that.
The bigger question is - is this the version we heard in the Africa Rising Documentary? That one listed:
Breathe (Alternate Version) - U2
Music by U2. Lyrics by Bono. Produced by Brian Eno and Danny Lanois. Recorded by Richard Rainey assisted by Chris Heaney. Mixed by Declan Gaffney. Backing vocals by The Edge, Bono, Brian Eno and Danny Lanois. Horn arrangement and keyboards by Declan Gaffney.
So I'm guessing this is yet another new version, which the credit to Electric Lady Land also seems to support.
Oh and for those looking for even more info:
http://www.ampvisual.com/blog/u2-perfectly-ordinary-sleeve/
The guys over at Amp Visual talk about the design of the sleeve, and show a hint of the label inside the sleeve. :)
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Wow! I was certain the version from the documentary would be the same version on the single. I didn't realize the documentary version had those credits.
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Wow! I was certain the version from the documentary would be the same version on the single. I didn't realize the documentary version had those credits.
And was just told over on twitter that the mix of Ordinary Love used in the movie is different than that in the lyric video...hmmmm....wonder if the single and the soundtrack will differ.
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I found a tracklist with track times on some public library site. Ordinary Love was listed as 3:39, same as the single. Wouldn't be the first time that U2 has made a movie version of a song that's different from the soundtrack album.
I posted it on Twitter last night.
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::.. ok, but, most important of all:
Are any of you 100% SURE to get a copy of the actual record??
Some fans were told via e-mail about their backorder, since some internet sites of some record stores couldn't be sure
to get the record for them. >:(
This would become like WAIE where some copies were up to $100 USD...
So, if you're not in the USA, or UK, you'd better get your passport and schedule a short trip to those countries to buy your copy.
Or try to persuade some USA friend to get one for you... like myself ;)
Wish you luck for next Friday...we all U2 fans will need it!
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::.. ok, but, most important of all:
Are any of you 100% SURE to get a copy of the actual record??
Not quite 100% sure. My local record shop confirmed that they have copies in stock, and I plan to get there very early. Hopefully no one is camping out or anything. :-\
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This would become like WAIE where some copies were up to $100 USD...
or more, already on Ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/U2-ORDINARY-LOVE-10-VINYL-BLACK-FRIDAY-LTD-EDITION-/251388669631?pt=UK_Records&hash=item3a87eeaebf
::)
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::: B*stards! >:(
told ya...
THIS MUST STOP!
How about start to collect MUSE stuff? :-\
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I think you're seeing some panic as people don't know whether or not they'll get a copy for sure. So they are willing to try anything to secure a copy...
Once they release tomorrow, I figure eBay will flood with copies, and the price should go back down. I don't expect in the long run it will hold the same pricing as Wide Awake in Europe - there's twice as many copies of it being pressed...
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I had no problem getting 6 WAIE last time and kept 1 for myself and sold the rest at face value to friends in Europe, but this release will be more widely available outside the US so eventually everyone who wants one should be able to get one at a reasonable price. And this time they don't seem to be numbered, right? Plus having a DL code was a smart move.
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I got three extras last time, which I shared with the guys who work over at u2tour.de - they've helped out in a number of ways over the years with the site, and I was happy to make sure they could get a copy.
I am hopeful the two pre-orders I made both come through - neither has been cancelled yet. I take that as a good sign. I'll also be going to my shop tomorrow am and trying to get there about an hour before it opens, just in case there's a crowd. For WAIE they had six copies in total, so I'd like to actually have one in my hands tomorrow.
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I had no problem getting 6 WAIE last time and kept 1 for myself and sold the rest at face value to friends in Europe, but this release will be more widely available outside the US so eventually everyone who wants one should be able to get one at a reasonable price. And this time they don't seem to be numbered, right? Plus having a DL code was a smart move.
Whats "DL code" ??
One of the UK independant shops(on the list) says, it only has 5 copies available
http://www.banquetrecords.com/U2BF13
which I thought was quite small.
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DL = Download. It's a code you are able to use to go to a location on the internet and download the two tracks. I'm hoping for a high quality download in there. Arcade Fire's recent single came with a 320kbps download.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. ;D
That is the sound of completing the purchase at the record store this morning. I wish, for some of you, that I could have got more but there were limits to one copy per customer.
I saw some guy in front walking out with $350 worth of records, almost certainly all destined for eBay. Nobody likes Gaga, Dylan, Nirvana, Miles Davis, and Billy Talent that much.
Strangely, and almost disappointingly, there were maybe 15 copies of the U2 record there, and from what I saw, I was the only one who picked it up. Most everything else flew off the shelves within a few seconds. What does this say about U2?
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Also, I'm a bit disappointed (but not surprised) with the download. I really wanted to get FLAC versions of the tracks, but instead they're "only" 320kbps mp3s.
I'm not totally sure about this new Breathe version.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. ;D
That is the sound of completing the purchase at the record store this morning. I wish, for some of you, that I could have got more but there were limits to one copy per customer.
I saw some guy in front walking out with $350 worth of records, almost certainly all destined for eBay. Nobody likes Gaga, Dylan, Nirvana, Miles Davis, and Billy Talent that much.
Strangely, and almost disappointingly, there were maybe 15 copies of the U2 record there, and from what I saw, I was the only one who picked it up. Most everything else flew off the shelves within a few seconds. What does this say about U2?
The same thing happened here. Lots of copies of U2 and no one seemed interested in it. I was able to pick up a couple of extra (there was a limit) but they are spoken for at the moment. If you got stuck without a copy, please drop me an email at aaron@u2wanderer.org and if someone doesn't need the one I picked up for them i'll see about helping you out. :)
320kbps isn't too bad. I was hoping for a FLAC option as well. Oh well. Better this than 128. :) I expected the 320 to be honest, that's what Arcade Fire has been doing their singles at lately when you buy the vinyl.
Not loving the new version of Breathe either. Now I'm wishing it was the one from the documentary. :( This one almost sounds like the early version of "Silver and Gold" in some ways...
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Still in line here. No one here has expressed any interest in U2.
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The guy in front of me asked me if he would have ever heard anything U2 ever did - he didn't know them at all. 29 years old...I named some titles and he just looked at me blankly. He was there for Nirvana and Billy Talent.
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They only allowed one copy per customer, but I got it. ;D
My local shop had three copies, and I think the other two were still sitting in the bin when I left. There was actually more interest in The Grinch than there was in U2.
ETA: Agree with Aaron this version of Breathe is pretty throwaway. Would probably have preferred the full version from the Mandela documentary.
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but this release will be more widely available outside the US so eventually everyone who wants one should be able to get one at a reasonable price.
I would like to officially eat my own words based on what I experienced and many other stories I've read on other sites. In the metropolitan DC, MD, VA area, not exactly podunk USA as far as population, just a handful were available. One store was trying to get 49.95 per copy. Many others in other areas were charging 35 bucks.
There are what, 150 of them on Ebay now? I guess for any 'limited' release that's the new norm. Just grit the teeth and save time, pay the bucks. If you gotta get it.
Many record store owners, and the RSD operation itself, are alienating customers. Can't blame McGuinness for this.
Thank God I'm not a U2 collector.
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Went to two stores, first store had 3 copies for $24.00 (incl. tax) one per customer. Second store had 8 copies for $16.90 (incl. tax) and they let me buy two after I dazzled them with my U2 knowledge, experiences and collection. Now that I think about it, they probably just felt sad for me. :-[
Cheers,
u2expert
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Sadly, they were probably happy to unload them. :'(
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The records were fairly priced here at $10.99.
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Not loving the new version of Breathe either. Now I'm wishing it was the one from the documentary. :( This one almost sounds like the early version of "Silver and Gold" in some ways...
Strangely enough i like this "Breathe" more than any live version or the album version. Perhaps because i like the 1st Silver And Gold more than the later versions.
I'm thrilled to have the 10 inch within a few weeks from North America thanks to someone ... It look like Europe (except UK and Eire) will not receive any copies.
I received a mail that today (Saturday) there will be a link in my U2.com profile to a mp3 of Ordinary Love.
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Is it just me or does Ordinary Love sound like a Coldplay song?
The new Breathe is interesting, I like they essentially covered their own song in a very different style. The simpler arrangement fits the lyrics. Not sure I'd want it over the original, but it's nice to have them side by side. The ending doesn't quite fit though.
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Does anyone know where I can hear the new Breathe version? Doesn't seem to be up on YouTube yet and I couldn't play the record even if I did manage to get one from Australia. Can someone upload it to YouTube without it being copyright?
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Does anyone know where I can hear the new Breathe version? Doesn't seem to be up on YouTube yet and I couldn't play the record even if I did manage to get one from Australia. Can someone upload it to YouTube without it being copyright?
u2.com have a video up of someone putting the vinyl on a turntable, and about 50s of the song. That'd be official as it gets.
The full thing is on youtube, but not from an official source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4WRDQINDuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_6bOhGKHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ACPNoKn7I
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Thanks, Aaron.
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My brother-in-law snagged me a copy at an indie store in Lubbock, TX. He said there were a few copies and he was the only person who snagged one. I thought that might be because Lubbock isn't really a U2 type of town, but based on other reports here it appears that this isn't a hugely desirable release. Oh well, I'm glad I got one. :)
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The soundtrack version is now available on iTunes. It's identical to the single except for a couple of extra seconds of silence at the end. I suppose I'll have to buy the movie DVD now as the version that plays over the credits is purportedly different.
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Apparently they really are using this cover in the UK:
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u584/U2Wanderer/MandelaUKCover_zpsa09cbec7.jpg)
I definitely prefer the US version:
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u584/U2Wanderer/MandelaUSCover_zps154bf7ee.jpg)
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Interested in buying the Ordinary Love 10-inch vinyl single released by U2?
Update: I was able to sell it. :D
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New remix on U2's Soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/u2/ordinary-love-paul-epworth-version
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Interesting that they got Paul Epworth to do this. It's really pretty similar to the original version, just with different beats. I like the cold ending rather than the fade, though.
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I don't suppose the remix is available anywhere in better quality that 128 kbps MP3?
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I don't suppose the remix is available anywhere in better quality that 128 kbps MP3?
Not that i'm aware of. Looking at promo cds and the like but nothing yet. Except for the "For Your Consideration" CD that was sent to the Oscar / Globes judges - but that one clearly labeled "Danger Mouse" as a producer, and made no mention of Epworth so I think it's the version we have from the soundtrack.
Will let you know if i track down a source...
A
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Sounds pretty good for a low-quality MP3, FWIW, even on headphones. But there's definitely a couple of spots that have smeary compression artifacts.
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I was hoping the fan club would offer this as a download, too, but nothing so far.
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When U2.com hosted their own audio streams the bitrate was usually 256 or 320, but unfortunately they seem to have moved to Soundcloud.
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When U2.com hosted their own audio streams the bitrate was usually 256 or 320, but unfortunately they seem to have moved to Soundcloud.
I wonder if that isn't due to changes in how Billboard calculates the charts now. A song now has a streaming component towards it's placement in the Hot 100. Views on youtube etc. count towards a song's chart position. Songs streamed from u2.com wouldn't count as that's not a public site. But soundcloud might be amongst those sites that would count towards charting. So perhaps this was just because there's an effort to gain some chart traction...
But they have also been uploading old clips on soundcloud, so who knows what they are doing. Those old clips were also avaialble at u2.com for the most part I think....
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u2.com just posted a new video for "ORDINARY LOVE" - this time for the Paul Epworth video. And this time the video features actual footage of U2. It's cut with material filmed for the lyric video, and is by the same directors. I rather like this version.
It's on u2.com now, but only if you are a paid subscriber. If you aren't a paid subscriber, give it a little bit and it will probably show up on youtube.
Aaron
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PS I don't think the audio stream here is any better than what was on soundcloud...
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::: I was able to watch the video, and still haven't renewed my sub. 8)
I also like this version, though I'm wonder if that's gonna be the new image of the band...they look like Al Pacino on one of those NYC undercover cop movie. ???
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So, I guess I have to ask...
The version of the new video I was able to capture from U2.com is 960x540. Is there a better version available?
The audio is 100 kbps AAC, so yeah, certainly no better than the SoundCloud stream.
For the record, I did finally renew my subscription right after Christmas. I was waiting for my new credit card billing cycle. :P
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Never mind, it's on YouTube now. Up to 1080p.
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Even on YouTube, the best audio quality available is 128 kbps AAC.
It's a shame we don't have better audio quality for this mix, but it makes me feel better to know that YouTube doesn't re-encode audio at a higher bitrate than the original. Makes me more confident that "This Is" and "Sunday Bloody Sunday" were uploaded from lossless or at least high-bitrate lossy sources.
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Even on YouTube, the best audio quality available is 128 kbps AAC.
It's a shame we don't have better audio quality for this mix, but it makes me feel better to know that YouTube doesn't re-encode audio at a higher bitrate than the original. Makes me more confident that "This Is" and "Sunday Bloody Sunday" were uploaded from lossless or at least high-bitrate lossy sources.
Did you notice the 256k dash audio stream in webm format? I think that's ogg vorbis compression, but I haven't dug into it too far. I may play around this afternoon to see what that was.
I'm loving these U2.com exclusives which are exclusives for less than an hour in most cases. :(
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The .webm file is 192kb/s. it is Vorbis audio. VLC seems to have no issues playing it. Haven't done much else than look up the properties of the file in VLC.
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I swear that wasn't there last night. The .webm file is 3.72 MB, as opposed to 3.56 MB for the 128 kbps AAC file, so it must be 192 VBR or something.
Winamp will play it but it doesn't show the bit rate. I'll see if I can figure out how the extract ogg from webm later today.
Man, we are nerds. ;D
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A quick web search says this command will work.
I'll try it later.
ffmpeg -i ./input.webm -vn -acodec copy ./output.ogg
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It can be played in newer versions of VLC which also tell me it IS 192. I haven't tried the above. Power outage here so stuck with just the phone!!
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And we may be nerds. - but at least we know we aren't the only ones looking at this stuff!!
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So yeah,
Converted to Ogg. Winamp says it's 192 kbps VBR, average bitrate 130 kbps.
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More nerd stuff ahead...
You can see pretty definitively here that the Ogg file from YouTube was not encoded from the low-quality SoundCloud MP3.
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u584/U2Wanderer/epworth_zps3a4fbc92.jpg)
The top is a frequency spectrogram from the Ogg file and the bottom is from the MP3. The Ogg obviously contains frequencies above 18 kHz while the MP3 has had a lowpass filter applied at around 16 kHz.
The MP3 has also been mixed significantly louder. I'm trying to decide which one sounds better to me.
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YouTube 720p MP4 video info:
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1280x720 23.976fps 1731kbps [Video]
Audio: AAC 44100Hz stereo 191kbps [Audio]
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 3mn 55s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 201 Kbps
Channel count : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 5.39 MiB (10%)
Title : IsoMedia File Produced by Google, 5-11-2011
Encoded date : UTC 2013-12-27 11:48:03
Tagged date : UTC 2013-12-27 11:48:03
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Hmmm...
I suppose I can combine the 1080p video with the audio from the 720p stream. Thanks, Andrey.
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Is it just me or does Ordinary Love sound like a Coldplay song?
Tonight U2 won a Golden Globe for Ordinary Love.
Larry said, "Not only South Africa, but thanks to Mandela, the course of history in our country, holy Catholic Ireland, was changed forever. Amen."
Adam thanked Brian Burton for producing and Chris Martin for working out the song, and welcomed Guy Oseary to the U2 family.
http://www.atu2.com/news/u2s-ordinary-love-wins-at-the-golden-globes-1.html
;D
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::: I knew that piano riff was not copied from Coldplay: Mr. Martin himself, I'm sure, came with those chords...in the TV boradcast he was extremely happy for the shout out...now it makes sense. ???
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Oscar nominated! We'll see U2 do it live.
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::: almost 13 years since U2 was on the Academy Awards ceremony performing 'Hands that built America'.
The very same day that US start the bombing on Al-Qaeda...not so convinced on that move, a mini-objection was done by Larry, playing the intro drum-roll of SBS at the end of the song. I remember have seen this live, still recording on VHS :P. ::)
Didn't find a YouTube footage of that performance...strange. 8)
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::: I knew that piano riff was not copied from Coldplay: Mr. Martin himself, I'm sure, came with those chords...
The riff is quite standard. Gm (d, g, bes) (2nd Inversion), Dm (d f a), F (c f a) (2nd Inversion), C (c e g)
That's why it sounds so familiar. Almost anyone can play this.
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Yet another new mix of "Ordinary Love." This was apparently uploaded by someone at Interscope, so I think it's legit:
https://soundcloud.com/igapromotion/u2-ordinary-love
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Tx for the link, been listening to this since you posted and I must say I like it. It's sped up from the single and Epworth versions about 7-8 bpm and follows the single version lyrics except for the 'tough enough' verse which now serves as the end. Someone should call up this Phan guy who does the promo stuff for UMG and ask him where it came from.
Any idea who made this? It sounds like it might possibly be an alternate mix the band did since there's no other name attached. ???
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I like it too. It somehow sounds more "U2" to me than the other two versions. I love how Adam's bass is brought forward in the mix at one point. I'm curious to know the story behind this one.
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Nice find. Just put it out on the twitter. ;D
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Here is another mix of Ordinary Love from Interscope:
https://soundcloud.com/igapromotion/u2-ordinary-love
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Here is another mix of Ordinary Love from Interscope:
https://soundcloud.com/igapromotion/u2-ordinary-love
I think that's the same one we posted yesterday after Don found it. :)
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At some point I read that people who saw the movie claimed it had a different mix than the one on OST... maybe that's it?
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i listened to the version in the movie against the released versions. And to me it sounds most like the version on the soundtrack. Unless there was another version featured in an early cut of the movie? I've got a rip of the movie version if anyone wants to compare. Just drop me a note and i'll send it on.
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So, are you saying the soundtrack version is different from the original single version? That at this point we have three different versions?
1. Single version
2. Soundtrack version (same as Interscope version on Soundcloud)
3. Paul Epworth Mix
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No I'm saying the version on the soundtrack album, and on the 10-inch single, and downloadable through u2.com and in the movie itself is all one song.
Then we have two others. The Paul Epworth mix.
And this Interscope released version from Soundcloud.
Sorry for any confusion. Hopefully that makes it clear. :)
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Thanks. I appreciate it!
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Sorry I have to add more.
I took another listen. And while the start sounded quite like the version that was released on the soundtrack and the 10-inch, the end did not. The end matches up to the Interscope posted file. But the start sounds much faster on the Interscope one, while the version from the soundtrack sounds like the same speed as the Soundtrack.
So perhaps someone else can take a listen. I'm sending a link to a few of you who have requested it here. Take a listen and please let the forum know what's going on...
Links going out in a moment.
Aaron
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I would say the version in the actual movie running over the credits is a seperate version, almost a hybrid of the "Single Version" and this new "Alternate Version", it doesn't fade out, and has the extra lyrics.
I have :
4 distinct "Official" Versions
Ordinary Love (Soundtrack Version - Edit / Single Version)
Ordinary Love (Paul Epworth Version) - Alternate Lyrics
Ordinary Love (Soundtrack Version - Full)
Ordinary Love (Alternate Version - Interscope Promo)
2 "Unofficial" Mixes
Ordinary Love (Q-Music Mandela Edit)
Ordinary Love (Devin Wild And Sub Zero Project Bootleg)
2 "Live Performances"
Ordinary Love (Live, New York, February 17, 2014)
Ordinary Love (Live, Los Angeles, March 2, 2014)
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Yep, Scarlet's correct and much quicker with the answer. (tho prob still needs work w/ golf swing) ;D
The IGA is closest to the movie credits version as far as the lyrics go, except for the ending verse. :)
movie:
Are we tough enough
For ordinary love?
Are we tough enough
For ordinary love?
Are we tough enough
For ordinary love?
IGA
Are we tough enough
For ordinary love?
Are we tough enough
Tough enough for love?
Are we tough enough
For ordinary love?
Seems like the same vocal stems were used in the rest of the song.
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I have listened to the soundtrack version Aaron posted and I concur that there are four distinct official versions:
1. 10"/dowload version, also available on the soundtrack CD and through U2.com
2. Movie version... very similar to the above, but with a different ending
3. Paul Epworth remix
4. Interscope promo version (which has an ending similar to #2, but is definitely a different mix)
There are many differences between 2 and 4, but the most obvious is when the drums kick in. In #2 (and #1, for that matter), after Bono first sings "...if we can't deal with Ordinary Love," there are eight bars of piano before the drums kick in. In #4, the drums kick in immediately.
Of all of them, I still think I like #4 the best. The bass sounds better and more natural. I'm not a huge fan of what Epworth did with the programmed drums on his version.
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I've listed to the soundtrack version from Aaron. I agree there are four versions represented here as described above.
Thanks Aaron for digging into this.
Crazy that there would such subtle differences between the versions. Why do they bother? Reminds me of the various versions of Walk On which were not wildly different. That was annoying because there were elements of each that I liked, but none of the mixes had all of the elements I liked.
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Thanks Aaron for digging into this.
Thank everyone here in the forum as well. :-) I appreciate all the extra ears that went into confirming things. If anyone else wants to take a listen to what they are talking about just drop me a message on here and I'll help you out. :) Otherwise, the DVD and Blu-Ray are due next week. :)
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Arriving late at the party, but the soundtrack version of the song is different than the single version and Epworth mix, and subtly different than the promo version.
I think the reason for that is that the ost version is the earliest mix of the song, as it was being worked on in parallel with filming.
I still like what Epworth has done better, production-wise.
Oh and, hello wanderers! :)
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Arriving late at the party, but the soundtrack version of the song is different than the single version and Epworth mix, and subtly different than the promo version.
I think the reason for that is that the ost version is the earliest mix of the song, as it was being worked on in parallel with filming.
I still like what Epworth has done better, production-wise.
Oh and, hello wanderers! :)
And by soundtrack version of the song you mean the "movie version" of the song as seen in the film, and not the version on the soundtrack itself which was the same as the single version, correct? CONFUSING!!
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Arriving late at the party, but the soundtrack version of the song is different than the single version and Epworth mix, and subtly different than the promo version.
I think the reason for that is that the ost version is the earliest mix of the song, as it was being worked on in parallel with filming.
I still like what Epworth has done better, production-wise.
Oh and, hello wanderers! :)
And by soundtrack version of the song you mean the "movie version" of the song as seen in the film, and not the version on the soundtrack itself which was the same as the single version, correct? CONFUSING!!
Correct. And to add to all that, I only heard the movie version at the film pre-screening, so perhaps there was a different version at the actual premiere :P :P
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Don't forget the Sa Mejesté Remix which is available on itunes as a podcast download
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One other unofficial remix: X-VERTIGO & Renco Healing Remix
https://www.facebook.com/xvertigomusic/app_220150904689418
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Don't forget the Sa Mejesté Remix which is available on itunes as a podcast download
Thanks for this. Just posted it on our Twitter page.
Here is a direct link to the podcast.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/u2-ordinary-love-sa-majeste/id612246843?i=241722711&mt=2
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I picked up the Mandela DVD this morning. The audio is English 5.1 and Spanish 2.0 Dolby. Unfortunately on the Spanish soundtrack there is some narration over the beginning of the song, so I guess I will have to manually mix down the 5.1 audio to get a proper stereo mix of the movie version of Ordinary Love.
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So is the DVD version identical to the the version shown in the movie theater?
If so there's still the fact that the Spanish version on the DVD has dialogue over it, hence not quite identical. :P
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There's also a version with director's commentary in stereo. ;D
As far as I know, this is the same version that ran in theaters. Has the "tough enough" part repeated three times at the end.
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Thanks...hopefully the director is speaking English. ;D
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I'll have to look at the Canadian release - it's unlikely we have a Spanish track up here. So maybe there will be something different on this end. Bought it last night but haven't had a chance to open the package yet.
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I never saw Mandela in theaters, but the DVD version does appear to be the same version that people described hearing in the theater, including the outro with the "tough enough" line repeated three times. A better way to end the song than the fade out of the single version, if you ask me. It's definitely distinct from the single version, the Epworth mix, and the Interscope promo mix.
Unfortunately, there is no clean stereo version of the track on the US or Canadian version of the DVD. The US release has a 5.1 English language track and a Dolby 2.0 Spanish language track. The Spanish language track has some narration over the intro, ruining the only stereo mix. The English language track has a serious imbalance between the left front and right front channels. I wasn't sure if this was a mistake or a very odd artistic choice until I examined the Canadian DVD...
The Canadian DVD has Dolby 5.1 English and French tracks. The English language track has the same channel imbalance, which is obviously a mistake. The French language track is correctly balance, so the best way to get a clean version of this film version of Ordinary Love is to order the Canadian DVD, rip the French language track, and mix it down to stereo.
I don't have the hardware to rip the Blu-ray version. Would be interested to know if there is a stereo track there or if it has the same channel balance problem. I also need to look at the specs on other international releases to see if there may be a stereo track on one of those.
Obviously a little disappointed with the US DVD. I wonder if Amazon will accept a return if I explain the disc is flawed?
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Blu-ray is apparently English and Spanish 5.1, so no stereo track. It is DTS-HD, which is lossless 5.1.
I should probably learn to rip Blu-rays at some point. Have to get an external drive first, though.
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Long shot here, but does anyone know where I can get a digital version of the Interscope promo version of "Ordinary Love"? I meant to try and capture it from this link, but it's no longer available:
https://soundcloud.com/igapromotion/u2-ordinary-love
:)