u2songs.com: Running to Stand Still
Site Related => Discography & Releases => Topic started by: PatrickM on August 04, 2011, 12:26:26 PM
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http://achtungbaby.u2.com/
Feeling slightly out of air right now...
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6 CDs! 4 DVDs! Zooropa gets the shaft, a little. Here's the "not final" track listing:
http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/achtung-baby/u2-achtung-baby-super-deluxe-box-2011/invt/0602527793702/ (http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/achtung-baby/u2-achtung-baby-super-deluxe-box-2011/invt/0602527793702/)
CD1 - Achtung Baby
01. Zoo Station
02. Even Better Than The Real Thing
03. One
04. Until The End Of The World
05. Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
06. So Cruel
07. The Fly
08. Mysterious Ways
09. Tryin’ To Throw Your Arms Around The World
10. Ultra Violet (Light My Way)
11. Acrobat
12. Love Is Blindness
CD2 - Zooropa
01. Zooropa
02. Babyface
03. Numb (The Edge)
04. Lemon
05. Stay (Faraway, So Close!)
06. Daddy’s Gonna Pay for Your Crashed Car
07. Some Days Are Better Than Others
08. The First Time
09. Dirty Day (Bono and The Edge)
10. The Wanderer
CD3 - Uber Remixes
01. Night and Day (Steel string remix)
02. Real Thing (Perfecto Mix)
03. Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Extended Club Mix)
04. Lemon (Perfecto Mix)
05. Can’t help falling in love (Triple peaks Remix)
06. Lady with the spinning head (extended Dance remix)
07. Real Thing (V16 Exit Wound Remix)
08. Mysterious Ways (Ultimatum Mix)
09. The Lounge fly mix
10. Mysterious Ways (The Perfecto Remix)
11. One (Apollo 440) – Mix Master [S-109]
CD4 - Unter Remixes
01. Mysterious Ways (Tabla Motown Remix)
02. Mysterious Ways (Appollo 440 Magic Hour Remix)
03. Can’t help Falling in Love (Mystery Train Dub)
04. One (Apollo 440) – Ambient Master [S-109]
05. Lemon (Momo’s Reprise)
06. Salome (Zooromancer Remix)
07. Real Thing (Trance Mix)
08. Numb (Gimme Some More Dignity Mix)
09. Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Magic hour Remix)
10. Numb (The Soul Assassins Mix)
11. Real Thing (Apollo 440 Stealth Sonic Remix)
CD5 - B-sides and Bonus Tracks
01. Lady with the spinning head (UV1)
02. Blow Your House – Analogue Mix Bono Edit 190711
03. Salome
04. Even Better Than the Real Thing (Single)
05. Satelite of love
06. Wild Horses (Temple Bar Remix)
07. Heaven And Hell – In Truth Mix 211711
08. Oh Berlin – Analogue Mix 1 190711 (needs an edit)
09. Near the Island (instr) Night train from Rostock.
10. Down All The Days (Vsn 1) [CD#4/07] (needs edits)
11. Paint it black
12. Fortunate Son
13. Alex Descends into Hell for a bottle of Milk/Korova
14. Where did it all go wrong
15. Everybody loves a winner edit between take 2+3
16. Real Thing (Fish out of water mix)
CD6 - “Baby” Actung Baby
01. “Baby” Zoo Station
02. “Baby” Even Better Than The Real Thing
03. “Baby” One
04. “Baby” Until The End Of The World
05. “Baby” Who’s Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
06. “Baby” So Cruel
07. “Baby” The Fly
08. “Baby” Mysterious Ways
09. “Baby” Tryin’ To Throw Your Arms Around The World
10. “Baby” Ultra Violet (Light My Way)
11. “Baby” Acrobat
12. “Baby” Love Is Blindness
DVD
01. From The Sky Down – a documentary
02. Videos
03. Bonus Material
04. ZooTV Live From Sydney – the concert
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CD3 - Uber Remixes
01. Night and Day (Steel string remix)
02. Real Thing (Perfecto Mix)
03. Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Extended Club Mix)
04. Lemon (Perfecto Mix)
05. Can’t help falling in love (Triple peaks Remix)
06. Lady with the spinning head (extended Dance remix)
07. Real Thing (V16 Exit Wound Remix)
08. Mysterious Ways (Ultimatum Mix)
09. The Lounge fly mix
10. Mysterious Ways (The Perfecto Remix)
11. One (Apollo 440) – Mix Master [S-109]
CD4 - Unter Remixes
01. Mysterious Ways (Tabla Motown Remix)
02. Mysterious Ways (Appollo 440 Magic Hour Remix)
03. Can’t help Falling in Love (Mystery Train Dub)
04. One (Apollo 440) – Ambient Master [S-109]
05. Lemon (Momo’s Reprise)
06. Salome (Zooromancer Remix)
07. Real Thing (Trance Mix)
08. Numb (Gimme Some More Dignity Mix)
09. Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Magic hour Remix)
10. Numb (The Soul Assassins Mix)
11. Real Thing (Apollo 440 Stealth Sonic Remix)
Of these discs I only see three tracks that are commercially unreleased. The two One remixes and the Mystery Train Dub. Which is on some promos.
My fav of all of these tracks are the MW Magic Hour remix and Triple Peaks remix of Can't Help Fallin in Love.
CD5 - B-sides and Bonus Tracks
01. Lady with the spinning head (UV1)
02. Blow Your House – Analogue Mix Bono Edit 190711
03. Salome
04. Even Better Than the Real Thing (Single)
05. Satelite of love
06. Wild Horses (Temple Bar Remix)
07. Heaven And Hell – In Truth Mix 211711
08. Oh Berlin – Analogue Mix 1 190711 (needs an edit)
09. Near the Island (instr) Night train from Rostock.
10. Down All The Days (Vsn 1) [CD#4/07] (needs edits)
11. Paint it black
12. Fortunate Son
13. Alex Descends into Hell for a bottle of Milk/Korova
14. Where did it all go wrong
15. Everybody loves a winner edit between take 2+3
16. Real Thing (Fish out of water mix)
I see six unreleased tracks on this one. 7 if you include the new Real Thing mix.
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It gets more confusing when you look at the records. They offer vinyl only tracks.
Newman!
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Wow. Mystery Train Dub? SWEET. That didn't even make that iTunes thing.
Now assuming this is legit (it still looks rough - what does "needs an edit" mean?) I hope Aaron will go through this track by track and explain it. Maybe "Fish out of Water Mix" is the new EBTTRT 360 version???
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Also worth noting that this is by no means everything from that era, even with 2 CDs of remixes it's not all there, not even close if you count edits, etc... However, exciting to see these mysterious versions of "One," the Ultimatum Mix of MW (I guess technically commercially released but very rare), and the Soul Assassins Mix of "Numb" was only on Melon wasn't it? The Mystery Train Dub only appeared on one 12 inch vinyl promo, and that's it, ever. Besides some bastardized versions on some of the "fruitlegs" it has never appeared anywhere else on CD or otherwise that I know of.
Of these discs I only see three tracks that are commercially unreleased. The two One remixes and the Mystery Train Dub. Which is on some promos.
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Also worth noting that this is by no means everything from that era, even with 2 CDs of remixes it's not all there, not even close if you count edits, etc... However, exciting to see these mysterious versions of "One," the Ultimatum Mix of MW (I guess technically commercially released but very rare), and the Soul Assassins Mix of "Numb" was only on Melon wasn't it? The Mystery Train Dub only appeared on one 12 inch vinyl promo, and that's it, ever. Besides some bastardized versions on some of the "fruitlegs" it has never appeared anywhere else on CD or otherwise that I know of.
Of these discs I only see three tracks that are commercially unreleased. The two One remixes and the Mystery Train Dub. Which is on some promos.
Speaking of Melon, where's Stay (Underdog Mix)?
Actually, lots of Zooropa stuff is missing: I've Got You Under My Skin, Slow Dancing, Bullet live in Dublin (Stay b-side), Love is Blindness live in NY (Stay b-side), some worthy Lemon remixes (and many unworthy, ha!), and the alternate/soundtrack versions of Until the End of the World, Stay, and Wanderer. Plus I'd like the rumored "Bono version" of Wanderer. Oh well. There's still a ton of good stuff here to digest. I'm insanely curious about those dance remixes of "One," and of course the alternate version of the complete Achtung Baby album.
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This is fantastic. Now to justify spending a couple hundred dollars more just for the sunglasses....
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Anyone think that price on the UK Amazon site will come down a bit as the release approaches? I've seen it happen before with other new release stuff, albeit on the US one, which doesn't have a price yet, and that current price is just... frightening. They better be actual sunglasses Bono wore during that era if I'm spending that money...
Otherwise, excited about the news. Best email to wake up to.
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I agree it sounds pricey. And what's in there doesn't seem to justify the price. Always find it odd when they do things like replicas of singles. Why? Who actually wants those? Why not get the actual original singles?
A few other quibbles:
1.) No Blu ray version?
2.) Why the need to include the ZOO TV Sydney show again? I already have that in that deluxe edition
So they are double dipping a bit here with fans. It makes some sense to include that stuff but on the other hand the Sydney release was recent enough that most big fans would already have gotten that pretty recently.
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At the current exchange rate, and going by the current prices on Universal's site, the Super Deluxe looks like a good value for around $122.00. You get the 6-CDs and 4-DVDs, including the Guggenheim documentary, and the book. That's a deal.
90 bucks for the 4-LP box is not too far out of line with other new vinyl release prices which are 20-30 bucks a pop depending on the remastereing, etc. but I'd like to be able to buy just AB and Zooropa separately as 2x180g sets. Blue vinyl remixes...hmmm
So what about Zooropa? The album seems to be an afterthought, at least so far. ???
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I feel compelled to let other users in here know: I've just made the decision to pre-order the uber deluxe edition of the remastered AB from the UK Amazon store (possibly the dumbest economical decision I've made for a long while, but there it is anyway) and on my order confirmation page, I was only charged £274.99 (despite the product page saying £329.99, uhh what?!), with £0 for the "FREE super saver delivery" option (uhh, what, again?!). I have no idea why I was allowed that delivery option but it was there, so I chose it (maybe because certain items are free when they're so expensive? I'll ask Amazon shortly). In addition, I'm certain this time yesterday, the product page actually said £~380. So, even though I was charged £274.99 instead of £329.99, £329.99 is STILL a saving of around £50 that was advertised yesterday. So the price is coming down. I think that's good news, even if all the other savings are mistakes that will be corrected? I'd say to those who can afford it, and for some who can't but want it desperately, get on board while these savings are still available...
Edit: In terms of the shipping, I was plain blind. Apparently, on the product page, it freely says shipping is free to Australia. I hope it's like that for everyone else... But in terms of why I was charged £54 less than the current product page price? No idea. I've emailed Amazon UK to make sure it's not a mistake. I was hesitant to point it out in case they see it was a mistake and I have to fork out the total cost, but I'd rather play it safe now than get a shock on the day of shipping to see I was charged the full amount. And on top of all this, the price might still come down, seeing as Amazon frequently lowers their costs at random times as the delivery date approaches.
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I will probably go for the super deluxe. I'm waiting for a US seller because I don't want to have to deal with the DVDs being PAL or region coded for another region.
I would only get the Uber if I find a really deep discount somewhere.
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So what about Zooropa? The album seems to be an afterthought, at least so far. ???
Yeah, hopefully it'll get its own re-release when the time comes. I'd be surprised if they honestly have no extra material laying around to throw in its bonus disc.
I'm probably going to get the Super Deluxe and try to get the sunglasses from someone who bought the Uber but doesn't want them. So if any of you are buying the Uber version for all the other stuff but don't want them, let me know.
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Wow. Mystery Train Dub? SWEET. That didn't even make that iTunes thing.
Now assuming this is legit (it still looks rough - what does "needs an edit" mean?) I hope Aaron will go through this track by track and explain it. Maybe "Fish out of Water Mix" is the new EBTTRT 360 version???
I have gone through it all track by track and noted what's rare, what's new, what isn't. Should be posted later today or tomorrow. It is a rough track listing. You can see in some cases where the notes say "between edit 2 and 3" that to me says it's rough notes on a track listing and shouldn't have been released yet...
The "Fish Out of Water Mix" is the new EBTTRT version they've been playing on the road. He did that mix with them prior to the South American shows.
I'll drop a note when my analysis is up (it will be posted on atu2.com)
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http://www.atu2.com/news/achtung-baby-anniversary-edition-what-it-has-and-what-its-missing.html
My article on @u2. Points out the different mixes, and where they are from, what's new, what's rare, and what's fairly common. Interesting tidbits? Looks like there are a couple of different remixes on the vinyl box than in the normal box...the second disc of the two cd set doesn't match up with any of the CDs in the box...
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That's an awesome overview, Aaron. I'm really curious about those remixes of "One." My gut reaction is that dance mixes of "One" would be a travesty, but it could turn out cool if the mixes are more ambient, in the vein of Brothers in Rhythm's "Staring at the Sun" mixes.
I'm still holding out hope that the deluxe track listings can be tweaked to include a bit more archival material from Zooropa...
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Aaron (or anyone else),
Wasn't Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Magic Hour) just an edit two other remixes? I remember thinking that was just a way of kind of putting two remixes into one track and it wasn't actually anything different... So I wasn't a fan of that one.
Also is it possible that some of the unreleased songs were not from the Berlin sessions but from later sessions (i.e., Dublin)? Maybe this is answered somewhere so sorry if I missed it...
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Also missing is the Daddy's Gonna Pay (Perfecto Mix). I did get a different version of that sent to me that I meant to put up. I will do that later as now would be a good time to do it.
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That's an awesome overview, Aaron. I'm really curious about those remixes of "One." My gut reaction is that dance mixes of "One" would be a travesty, but it could turn out cool if the mixes are more ambient, in the vein of Brothers in Rhythm's "Staring at the Sun" mixes.
I'm still holding out hope that the deluxe track listings can be tweaked to include a bit more archival material from Zooropa...
They've pulled those tracklistings from the Universal store. And all along they have been listed as "changeable". So it may change before the album.
Those One remixes may have been done back in '91. Apollo 440 was working with the band quite extensively back then on the album tracks, and I remember hearing of some One remixes in the vault...lol.
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Aaron (or anyone else),
Wasn't Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Magic Hour) just an edit two other remixes? I remember thinking that was just a way of kind of putting two remixes into one track and it wasn't actually anything different... So I wasn't a fan of that one.
The opening to that mix was very quiet and different from the other mixes, and then it kicked in and kicked in hard. The other mixes including the solar plexus, and magic hour ones never interested me. But that particular one did.
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That's an awesome overview, Aaron. I'm really curious about those remixes of "One." My gut reaction is that dance mixes of "One" would be a travesty, but it could turn out cool if the mixes are more ambient, in the vein of Brothers in Rhythm's "Staring at the Sun" mixes.
I'm still holding out hope that the deluxe track listings can be tweaked to include a bit more archival material from Zooropa...
They've pulled those tracklistings from the Universal store. And all along they have been listed as "changeable". So it may change before the album.
Those One remixes may have been done back in '91. Apollo 440 was working with the band quite extensively back then on the album tracks, and I remember hearing of some One remixes in the vault...lol.
Yeah, I'm hoping they put that tentative track list up as a way to solicit fan reaction... and if they're paying attention, they'll realize that everyone wants to see Zooropa get more love on this set. I would think there would still be time before November to assemble some Zooropa tracks, but then what would they cut out to make room for them? That would annoy people all over again.
There is precedent for this. When the track lists for the first three album remasters were announced, the War bonus disc was missing the live b-sides, and everyone went ballistic. I don't think the b-sides appeared on an official track list until a couple of weeks before the sets were released.
As for the "One" remixes, like you, I'm almost certain that those were done back in '91 when Apollo 440 was remixing other Achtung Baby material. I doubt they're recent mixes.
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Thanks for sharing your review Aaron.
I also really love the MW b side that was only available on 45 or 7". One of the things that many fans are forgetting here is that much like POP, much of what we know as the album is done in the very last week or fortnight. I would assume that possibly they might have done some mixes or sequences and sent them off to important people for their opinion. This could possibly be BABY.
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When, where and how did they record the 360 version of the Real Thing?
Please don't tell me they are going to put a live track on the box set.
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When, where and how did they record the 360 version of the Real Thing?
Please don't tell me they are going to put a live track on the box set.
What people are calling "the 360 Version" of Real Thing is actually this studio mix:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=528382700043 (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=528382700043)
Yes, the live tour version is based on that, in the same way that the live version of Crazy Tonight is based on two different studio remixes.
To me, the new mix of Real Thing sounds like it was created with the original Real Thing tracks, with additional production from Fish Out of Water (assuming the "Fish Out of Water Mix" on the box set is this same version).
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http://www.atu2.com/news/achtung-baby-anniversary-edition-what-it-has-and-what-its-missing.html
So if I'm reading it correctly, the 2-CD Deluxe Edition doesn't have any songs that the Uber Deluxe edition doesn't have? They've just been moved around? I don't want to have to buy the deluxe edition as well, just to make sure I have every new song...
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http://www.atu2.com/news/achtung-baby-anniversary-edition-what-it-has-and-what-its-missing.html
So if I'm reading it correctly, the 2-CD Deluxe Edition doesn't have any songs that the Uber Deluxe edition doesn't have? They've just been moved around? I don't want to have to buy the deluxe edition as well, just to make sure I have every new song...
If you buy one of the two CD box sets you are good with every track except for the two different mixes showing up on the vinyl box set. At least according to the track lists now removed from the Universal site. There should be no reason to buy the two CD set if you buy one of the bigger box sets...
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The question is not "Why isn't there more Zooropa material?" The question is "Why did they throw Zooropa into their Achtung Baby re-release?" Sure it's not as popular, sure it followed pretty closely afterward. But it's different enough to warrant its own re-release treatment. Surely they could make more money by instead releasing a 2-or-more-disc Deluxe Zooropa with the B-sides and extras so notably absent from this one? And if they're planning to do that anyway, why put it in here as well? It's not like they had space that needed filling.
On another note, the inclusion of Can't Help Falling In Love (Mystery Train Dub) is a mixed blessing for me. I have the Salomé vinyl, it was hard to find, so there's a certain satisfaction in knowing I'm part of an exclusive club of people who have that track (I'm by no means one of those "I prefer bands you've never heard of" types, but simply take pride in my collection). A new release of it means the money I spent on the vinyl (roughly US$40) was ultimately wasted, and I no longer will be so privileged. On the other hand, I don't have the vinyl-cleaning tools required to get all the scratching and fuzz out of that particular record, and the audio sample at the beginning is so incredibly quiet that I can't help but expect the levels of the original song were badly mixed (something I hope is fixed on the CD). So I'll welcome having a higher quality copy. As long as it hasn't been edited for some stupid reason.
Speaking of that vinyl, if the new release is in fact the same, I'll gladly offer up my Salomé record for trade, sale, or possibly free, if anyone's interested. A trade for your Uber Deluxe sunglasses, perhaps?
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It says in the disco that this promo was released in Spring of 1992. I would say that like the Wild Horses single, it was released that fall. The promo came early. From what I remember, the One single was used to promote the North American Spring tour, Real thing the summer Euro tour, (and its dance remix) beforehand and finally Wild Horses came out in the Fall to promote the Outside Broadcast tour.
The Wild Horses video has North American stadium video footage in it so that is my clue. I would estimate it came out in October or November.
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Amazon.com, amazon.uk and amazon.de have all updated their product listings (at least for the 2-disc version) to say "Original recording remastered." So hopefully we can put that debate to bed now.
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It would be interesting to know when this remastering took place. All of the material on the 1990 - 2000 was at least remastered in 2002. Anyone know any more info on this?
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Well, there was that famous tweet from John Vanderslice in an LA recording studio last year when he said, "They're remastering Achtung Baby in the studio next door!" So I'm guessing that's when it happened.
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2010/09/16/u2-achtung-baby-reissue-remaster-special-edition/ (http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2010/09/16/u2-achtung-baby-reissue-remaster-special-edition/)
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I personally would have welcomed a separate release for Zooropa but with all the remixes between the two albums it's hard to do big releases that people will buy if it's 90% remixes, so I understand why they did it that way.
Still, re-releasing ZOO TV Sydney again as part of the package does annoy me. Why make people buy something again if it's available as a stand alone product?
For me, the ideal would be a full show from the Outside Broadcast tour. I don't think it'll happen, but we'll see. However, if you look at the Joshua Tree and the Miss Sarajevo documentaries you'll see there are clips from shows from that era (ISHF with Daniel Lanois and a performance of "Bad" from 1993 if I remember). It would have been great if they released some of this but I doubt they will.
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I'm one of the few people who doesn't actually own Zoo TV Sydney, so I'm also one of the few people who isn't bothered by its inclusion in this set. I certainly understand the frustration, though. :(
The absence of more Zooropa material really does bother me, though. I think the problem could be alleviated somewhat simply by adding a handful of Zooropa tracks to the existing track list. I think they could do this without adding another CD. It's certainly not perfect, but something like this might work, assuming 18 songs could be squeezed onto Disc 5 (changes in bold):
CD3 - Uber Remixes
01. Night and Day (Steel string remix)
02. Real Thing (Perfecto Mix)
03. Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Extended Club Mix)
04. Lemon (Perfecto Mix)
05. Can’t help falling in love (Triple peaks Remix)
06. Lady with the spinning head (extended Dance remix)
07. Real Thing (V16 Exit Wound Remix)
08. Mysterious Ways (Ultimatum Mix)
09. The Lounge fly mix
10. Mysterious Ways (The Perfecto Remix)
11. One (Apollo 440) – Mix Master [S-109]
12. Stay (Underdog Mix)
13. Real Thing (Single Mix) [moved from Disc 5]
14. Real Thing (Fish Out of Water) [moved from Disc 5]
CD4 - Unter Remixes
01. Mysterious Ways (Tabla Motown Remix)
02. Mysterious Ways (Appollo 440 Magic Hour Remix)
03. Can’t help Falling in Love (Mystery Train Dub)
04. One (Apollo 440) – Ambient Master [S-109]
05. Lemon (Lemonade Mix) [replace instrumental "Momo's Reprise" with this rare mix]
06. Salome (Zooromancer Remix)
07. Real Thing (Trance Mix)
08. Numb (Gimme Some More Dignity Mix)
09. Mysterious Ways (Solar Plexus Magic hour Remix)
10. Numb (The Soul Assassins Mix)
11. Real Thing (Apollo 440 Stealth Sonic Remix)
12. Stay (Soundtrack Version)
13. The Wanderer (Soundtrack Version)
14. Stay (Craig Armstrong Version)
CD5 - B-sides and Bonus Tracks
01. Lady with the spinning head (UV1)
02. Blow Your House – Analogue Mix Bono Edit 190711
03. Salome
04. Slow Dancing
05. Satelite of love
06. Wild Horses (Temple Bar Remix)
07. Heaven And Hell – In Truth Mix 211711
08. Oh Berlin – Analogue Mix 1 190711 (needs an edit)
09. Near the Island (instr) Night train from Rostock.
10. Down All The Days (Vsn 1) [CD#4/07] (needs edits)
11. Paint it black
12. Fortunate Son
13. Alex Descends into Hell for a bottle of Milk/Korova
14. Where did it all go wrong
15. Everybody loves a winner edit between take 2+3
16. Bullet the Blue Sky (Live in Dublin)
17. Love is Blindness (Live in New York)
18. The Wanderer (Bono Vocal) [either the rumored studio track or even the live version from the CBS tribute]
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Bad news on the remastering front.
I've heard from two different sources with Universal that this will not be a remastered recording, and indeed is just a re-release of Achtung Baby and the Zooropa album. The folks over at u2tour.de have their own sources, one of which said they weren't positive that there was any remastering, and another at Universal UK who said no remastering had taken place...
The comments about mastering being done in the other room likely pertains to the bonus materials being created for this set, including the "Baby" Achtung Baby album.
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Hi from France
a serious source from Universal France told us:
"All DVD included lot of unique and hidden feature.
Universal just seen and listened all about the remasterisation !!!"
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Aaron, it presumably means that it hasn't been remastered within the most recent while. But has been remastered since 1991. I guess that repeated remastering will wear down the source, and until there is a great leap forward in technology, there is not point in going in and doing it again.
That is my guess.
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I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, and it might just be me hoping, but if you think about it, why would Universal re-release the single disc version if it's not remastered? I understand that by releasing the 1991 edition ALONG with a bonus disc, vinyls, sunglasses and whatever else, it's okay because you get something else with it. But the single edition comes with just the album that anyone could have bought in 1991. What's the point of that if there's nothing new coming with the edition? That would suggest a remaster is the logical reason for re-releasing it.
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Aaron, it presumably means that it hasn't been remastered within the most recent while. But has been remastered since 1991. I guess that repeated remastering will wear down the source, and until there is a great leap forward in technology, there is not point in going in and doing it again.
That is my guess.
I don't think so.
They continue to say this is the "Original Release" and you don't get any clearer than "This will not be a remastered album." which is what I received from Universal UK's Music Direct Support Team. I did ask my contact at Universal here in Canada about the single disc, and he did say that they expect this to be an anniversary release with an essay about the album in the liner notes, and this would be the supported release going forward.
I'm still hoping they are wrong. The note from Universal France that yseilys posted has me crossing my fingers still. But I'm losing faith, and have to go with my contacts who have never steered me wrong in the past...
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This just sucks.
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Hi from France
a serious source from Universal France told us:
"All DVD included lot of unique and hidden feature.
Universal just seen and listened all about the remasterisation !!!"
I'm guessing the original message was in french, right? If so, could you post that or send it to me in a PM so I can try making a more correct english translation?
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Here, 2 messages from French serious source
voila voila le contenu enfin devoilé... (et je me suis pas trompé sur mes infos tiens tiens comme quoi mes contacts ne racontent pas des mensonges !! ;-)).... ) va faloir aller au portefeuille pour se procurer ces beaux joujoux ;-))
d'apres mes contacts, il s'avere que les dvd contiennent pas mal de bonus inédits egalement + bonus caché.
en tt cas universal a deja vu et entendu l'ensemble de cette remasterisation !!! et il s'agit bel et bien de remasterisation !!!
par contre jsuis surpris de pas retrouver en blueray les contenu des différents dvd...
and
rassurez vous le soit disant mail universal est un fake !!!!!!!
les adresses mails de chez universal ne sont pas comme celle mentionnée plus haut....
restez calme, l'album est belle et bien "remasterise"
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A little translation polishing for the english speakers:
"Here they are, the contents finally revealed (and I'm not mistaken about my information, my contacts don't tell me lies!! ;-) ), we'll need to get out our wallets to get these nice toys ;-) .
According to my contacts, the DVDs prove to contain plenty of both unreleased and hidden bonuses.
In any case, Universal has already seen and heard this entire remastering!!! And it's quite a remaster!!!
On the other hand, I'm surprised to not find [this next part is either "the contents of the various DVDs on Blu-ray" or "different contents on Blu-ray than DVD," but I think it's the first one]...."
"I assure you what the Universal mail says is false!!!!!!!
Universal's mail addresses aren't like the ones mentioned above....
Don't worry, the album truly is 'remastered.'"
Reassuring, certainly. Do you mind telling us who your sources are?
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Reassuring, certainly. Do you mind telling us who your sources are?
French source ( maybe a guy from Universal Fr) who alreaddy gave us many correct informations about all remasters and "No Line" album many months before albums releases...
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Certainly not official, but someone over on the Interference forum, who is from a band called Polaroid Kiss and who is a "regular client" of Arnie Acosta Mastering, says their mastering session with Arnie this week got POSTPONED because Arnie was going to be in the studio with U2 for the entire week! As he rightly notes, Arnie was involved with both Achtung Baby and Zooropa but is no longer employed by Universal Music, so it's not likely they're working on something new.
Here's where the discussion starts. You've got to read a bit through the tedious thread to get the full story from him:
http://u2.interference.com/f189/achtung-baby-zooropa-remaster-reissue-part-iii-three-212141-7.html#post7338267 (http://u2.interference.com/f189/achtung-baby-zooropa-remaster-reissue-part-iii-three-212141-7.html#post7338267)
Even if this is true, it doesn't mean they're remastering Achtung Baby. They could be doing mastering for the bonus tracks again, or maybe mastering the tracks for the Davis Guggenheim documentary. But it's certainly an interesting development...
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http://twitter.com/#!/jmelrose
look the tweets from 1st and 2nd of september...
^^
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Thanks for providing a link, but I can't access any info from it. If the link provided (in the above post) has some info, can you please just reply here with it (or at least the basics of the info) ?
It would help those of us who are not on Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, etc.
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@columbiaeagle--I'm not on Twitter either but for some reason I got it
It's a tweet from Steve Lillywhite who was asked if he knew if AB was being remastered and he replied that 'as far as I know it is completely remastered"
There are also bits of info coming from other bands (like Depeche Mode for one) that they are recording covers of AB songs for a Nov release.
The suspense is building!
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Thanks for the quick reply. I was just on the HOME forum (Depeche Mode) and a thread was created about the Depeche Mode cover. I read through the posts and I couldn't believe what a few of the people posted. Some of them weren't happy about Depeche Mode covering a U2 song and some just wrote they didn't like U2. I posted on the thread and here's some of what I wrote:
U2's got some pretty dark songs that I could see Depeche Mode covering - "Love Is Blindness", "So Cruel", "Acrobat", "Until The End Of The World", "Wake Up Dead Man", "Tomorrow", "Gone", "Dirty Day" - songs about love, religion, sex, loss, family, etc.
Even a song like "If You Wear That Velvet Dress" could be covered by Depeche Mode. I could see Martin singing the back-up vocal part that Edge sings. I would love for Depeche Mode to take this short song (too short if you ask me) and lengthen it with a Martin Gore solo on guitar or keyboard.
Yeah, I know, the two bands have completely different styles, but one thing they both have in common: they have created some of the best ever melodies, harmonies, and lyrics in music!
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Thanks for providing a link, but I can't access any info from it.
Try to paste in your web browser full link:
http://twitter.com/#!/jmelrose
not only "http://twitter.com/#" ;) Then it works fine.
Thanks for the quick reply. I was just on the HOME forum (Depeche Mode) and a thread was created about the Depeche Mode cover. I read through the posts and I couldn't believe what a few of the people posted. Some of them weren't happy about Depeche Mode covering a U2 song and some just wrote they didn't like U2. I posted on the thread and here's some of what I wrote:
U2's got some pretty dark songs that I could see Depeche Mode covering - "Love Is Blindness", "So Cruel", "Acrobat", "Until The End Of The World", "Wake Up Dead Man", "Tomorrow", "Gone", "Dirty Day" - songs about love, religion, sex, loss, family, etc.
Even a song like "If You Wear That Velvet Dress" could be covered by Depeche Mode. I could see Martin singing the back-up vocal part that Edge sings. I would love for Depeche Mode to take this short song (too short if you ask me) and lengthen it with a Martin Gore solo on guitar or keyboard.
Yeah, I know, the two bands have completely different styles, but one thing they both have in common: they have created some of the best ever melodies, harmonies, and lyrics in music!
WOW! I like both U2 & DM and it's very interesting news! :D I know that they play different types of music, but it's perfect for cover versions - many good covers ware created when someone changed music style of song. ;)
Acrobat would be good but LiB has also a chance. Maybe The Fly? ::)
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Even a song like "If You Wear That Velvet Dress" could be covered by Depeche Mode. I would love for Depeche Mode to take this short song (too short if you ask me) and lengthen it with a Martin Gore solo on guitar or keyboard.
If you think it's too short, you should track down the version Bono did with Jools Holland; it's markedly longer and deeply awesome.
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Jools Holland? I've never even heard of that person. I wasn't aware of a longer version of "If You Wear That Velvet Dress". Thanks for the tip. OK, I will start my search for it today. I doubt it's on the iTunes Store (US), but that's the first place I will check. Then Amazon MP3 (US), and then Google.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yihwgEazFj4
I'm not a fan. The jazz feels smarmy. I probably just love the original too much.
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Jools Holland? I've never even heard of that person. I wasn't aware of a longer version of "If You Wear That Velvet Dress". Thanks for the tip. OK, I will start my search for it today. I doubt it's on the iTunes Store (US), but that's the first place I will check. Then Amazon MP3 (US), and then Google.
It was widely released worldwide. Shouldn't be too difficult to find.
Further information on the release in the discography: http://www.u2wanderer.org/disco/solo001.html
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Thanks for the info. I thought my knowledge of U2 releases was up-to-date. It's releases like this that make me second guess myself.
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So, I just noticed that Even Better Than The Real Thing (Fish Out Of Water Mix) is supposed to be on Disc 5 of the two larger Achtung Baby box sets. This is great news. I wasn't a big fan of any of the remixes of Even Better Than The Real Thing when they were released in 1992.
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Probably a mistake, but here's how the official U2 store now lists the formats:
20th Anniversary Edition [previously just the single disc]
"This 20th anniversary edition includes previously unreleased songs from the Achtung Baby sessions, remixes from the time and TV."
http://u2.store2.livenation.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Store.woa/wa/product?sourceCode=U2CWEB&sku=U2T52621
20th Anniversary Deluxe Edition [previously 2-CD edition]
"This Deluxe Edition also includes "From the Sky Down" - a documentary from Academy Award winning director Davis Guggenheim (Waiting for Superman, An Inconvenient Truth and acclaimed music documentary It Might Get Loud featuring The Edge, Jack White and Jimmy Page)."
So, if the official store is to be believed, there is no longer a single-disc option. There is now a 2CD version (with CD2 being b-sides, remixes, etc.) and a 1CD/1DVD version (with the DVD being the From the Sky Down doc).
As far as I can tell, the Super Deluxe and Uber Deluxe are the same, although with no actual track lists it's tough to know for sure!
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My questions concern the music on the 6 CDs in the Super Deluxe Edition. Keep in my mind, I did buy The Complete U2 digital box set from iTunes and it allowed me access to many tracks from the Achtung Baby/Zooropa era that I never would have been able to buy at a reasonable price. Here's my questions:
1 - Among the 6 CDs in the Super Deluxe Edition, do they contain tracks that were previously unavailable for the basic U2 fan (like me)? I guess some of you guys would refer to this as previously commercially unavailable.
2 - If the answer to question 1 is yes, then how many are there?
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From the "not final" list at the beginning of this thread, these are the tracks included on Super Deluxe, but not in The Complete U2.
Disc 3:
One (Apollo 440 Mix)
Disc 4:
Can't Help Falling in Love (Mystery Train Dub)
One (Apollo 440 Ambient)
Disc 5:
Blow Your House
Satellite of Love
Heaven and Hell
Oh Berlin
Near the Island
Down All the Days
Paint It, Black (might've been in the iTunes Plus version)
Fortunate Son (might've been in the iTunes Plus version)
Everybody Loves a Winner
Even Better Than the Real Thing (Fish Out of Water Mix)
All of Disc 6
Among those, Can't Help Falling In Love (Mystery Train Dub) is on a rare promo vinyl, and Paint It, Black, Fortunate Son, and Satellite of Love have been widely available on singles. Even Better Than the Real Thing (Fish Out of Water Mix) was briefly available online, I think. I don't know if any of the others have been released before.
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Z000, thanks for the quick reply. I really appreciate it. More questions, guys and girls.
My CD titled U2 Mango Remixes For Propaganda has a remix of Mysterious Ways called the Ultimate Mix. The CD states it was remixed by Stereo Mc’s. It has a track time of 5:01. My iTunes Complete U2 digital box set has a remix of Mysterious Ways called the Ultimatum Mix. It also has a track time of 5:01. This is just a spelling discrepancy between the CD and iTunes, right?
Has anyone been able to find out any info about these tracks?
Blow Your House
Heaven And Hell
Oh Berlin
Near The Island
Down All The Days
Everybody Loves A Winner
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My CD titled U2 Mango Remixes For Propaganda has a remix of Mysterious Ways called the Ultimate Mix. The CD states it was remixed by Stereo Mc’s. It has a track time of 5:01. My iTunes Complete U2 digital box set has a remix of Mysterious Ways called the Ultimatum Mix. It also has a track time of 5:01. This is just a spelling discrepancy between the CD and iTunes, right?
Yeah, those are the same song.
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Z000, thanks for the quick reply. I really appreciate it. More questions, guys and girls.
My CD titled U2 Mango Remixes For Propaganda has a remix of Mysterious Ways called the Ultimate Mix. The CD states it was remixed by Stereo Mc’s. It has a track time of 5:01. My iTunes Complete U2 digital box set has a remix of Mysterious Ways called the Ultimatum Mix. It also has a track time of 5:01. This is just a spelling discrepancy between the CD and iTunes, right?
Has anyone been able to find out any info about these tracks?
Blow Your House
Heaven And Hell
Oh Berlin
Near The Island
Down All The Days
Everybody Loves A Winner
Several of those names appeared on tracks that came out on the Salome bootleg from the tapes stolen from the Achtung Baby sessions. None of them have been released before officially, and this is likely their first appearance. "Down all the Days" is supposedly an early version of "Numb". Both "Blow Your House Down" and "Heaven and Hell" have appeared to describe tracks on the Achtung Baby demos that were stolen and released as a bootleg.
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According to this press release from Universal Italy (with finalized track list), Achtung Baby is indeed REMASTERED. But Zooropa is not?!?!? At least it isn't listed that way...
http://universalmusic.it/dbcommon/file/orderform/505.pdf
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Aaron, thanks for the interesting info on those unreleased tracks. What an exciting time to be a U2 fan!
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Your Mango CD is one of the "fruitlegs" which are full of spelling and track name errors and that was one of those spelling errors. These were not released by U2 of course, they are bootleg "knock offs" of the original "Melon." Most of them are not worth your $ but Mango was one of the best ones as it had tracks that were very hard to find like that one. Some of the later fruitlegs were really bad in that they just took MP3s off sites like interference.com (i.e., the remixes by "Crayon" and Rock2000") and put them on a CD. But I will admit they did a good job with the artwork for those, the spelling errors notwithstanding.
Also Aaron I sent you the Daddy's remix a while back in MP3, hope you got it.
My CD titled U2 Mango Remixes For Propaganda has a remix of Mysterious Ways called the Ultimate Mix. The CD states it was remixed by Stereo Mc’s. It has a track time of 5:01. My iTunes Complete U2 digital box set has a remix of Mysterious Ways called the Ultimatum Mix. It also has a track time of 5:01. This is just a spelling discrepancy between the CD and iTunes, right?
Yeah, those are the same song.
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Your Mango CD is one of the "fruitlegs" which are full of spelling and track name errors and that was one of those spelling errors.
Wow, I totally glossed over that and thought he was talking about Melon. Good catch.
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It's interesting that on that Italian press release, a couple of the remixes are actually credited "From the Fan Club CD Melon," rather than as general Zoo-era remixes. So really, the Achtung Baby box spans 1991-1995, which is a huge period of time.
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http://www.u2.com/news/title/achtung-baby-track-listing-revealed
Well there it is. Sure, until the experts listen and confirm it, this is as close as we can get to confirmation that the album has been remastered. Zooropa hasn't been, hopefully it gets its own remaster in a couple years for its anniversary, though.
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http://www.u2.com/news/title/achtung-baby-track-listing-revealed
Well there it is. Sure, until the experts listen and confirm it, this is as close as we can get to confirmation that the album has been remastered. Zooropa hasn't been, hopefully it gets its own remaster in a couple years for its anniversary, though.
Just discovered that the page on this link no longer says the word "remastered" under each edition. I give up...
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A month ago, if I recall correctly, the Super Deluxe Edition (6 CDs and 4 DVDs) was priced at $143 on Amazon (US). I just checked Amazon (US) right now, it's priced at $117. Hopefully, this price will continue to decrease. I don't know anything about this kind of stuff. Why does it happen? Does Island Records give info to Amazon? Or does Amazon decide on their own to increase or decrease a product before its release date? I highlighted the phrase "before its release date" because my question is specifically about that type of situation.
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A month ago, if I recall correctly, the Super Deluxe Edition (6 CDs and 4 DVDs) was priced at $143 on Amazon (US). I just checked Amazon (US) right now, it's priced at $117. Hopefully, this price will continue to decrease. I don't know anything about this kind of stuff. Why does it happen? Does Island Records give info to Amazon? Or does Amazon decide on their own to increase or decrease a product before its release date? I highlighted the phrase "before its release date" because my question is specifically about that type of situation.
I suspect it's a little bit of both -- they list a price as soon as an estimated one comes to them, which is open to change before release, but they also probably adjust the overhead they'll need as pre-orders are placed and product details come to light.
I'm entirely guessing, could be wrong.
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http://www.u2.com/news/title/achtung-baby-track-listing-revealed
Well there it is. Sure, until the experts listen and confirm it, this is as close as we can get to confirmation that the album has been remastered. Zooropa hasn't been, hopefully it gets its own remaster in a couple years for its anniversary, though.
Just discovered that the page on this link no longer says the word "remastered" under each edition. I give up...
Neil McCormick has a review copy of the Super Deluxe in-hand, and has been tweeting his impressions. And yes, he says it is remastered.
http://twitter.com/#!/neil_mccormick
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Woops! Nevermind. Even though Neil tweeted yesterday that AB was remastered, now he says:
neil_mccormick Neil McCormick
In answer to queries about Achtung Baby, I went to the source. It hasn't been remastered because it "didn't need to be", apparently ...
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Anyone have their Uber set yet? Apparently it comes with a download code and I was wondering what the content was. I only ordered the Super myself.
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I'm in Australia so I'll probably get mine in time for the 40th anniversary, but I know my bank account has been debited the amount so I assume it shouldn't be too far away for others.
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Anyone have their Uber set yet? Apparently it comes with a download code and I was wondering what the content was. I only ordered the Super myself.
I've got the Uber edition since Friday.
So far the website for the bonus material doesn't work so I can't tell you what the content is.
I expect it to open in the next couple of days when AB is available worldwide.
The box is absolutely stunning by the way...
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My U2 purchases are all based solely on musical content, so I only ordered the Super Deluxe, not the Uber. I'll be really annoyed if there's a surprise download available to Uber owners and not Super Deluxe orders. It really would have influenced my order choice.
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I'm in Australia so I'll probably get mine in time for the 40th anniversary, but I know my bank account has been debited the amount so I assume it shouldn't be too far away for others.
:::: HA HHAH HA HA AHAHAA ;D
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Quick update about the Uber Box download site.
http://achtung.pushexp.com/welcome/
It's pretty self explanatory... no extra content that isn't part of either the super or uber box so far.
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Have you downloaded any of the WAV files yet, bobni?
Curious to know whether they are just CD/Redbook standard (16 bit, 44.1 kHz). The phrase "high quality digital version" has me hoping for 24/96 or something of the like.
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Any US people having problems playing the Zoo TV Sydney show DVD? I'm reading about problems with this disc only and not sure what the cause is--perhaps Universal packaged wrong region for the US? It will probably play fine on your PC but not your DVD player.
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I've been hearing the same thing, but it's not a region problem, exactly. Apparently the disc is in PAL format, which won't play on most North American (NTSC) DVD players and TVs. Sounds like Universal is going to have a big disc exchange program on their hands.
My set hasn't shipped yet, so I can't check mine. :-[
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I heard about this too, so I tried it out last night. My discs were ordered from amazon US (although like all Super Deluxe sets, there's a "Disc made in Germany" sticker on the outside). The DVDs themselves all say "NTSC" on them, but they also have that "FSK-0" logo on them that is an EU rating, which I have never seen on US DVDs before.
ANYWAY, Zoo TV played fine for me. Keep in mind that I have a blu-ray player. It's possible that the DVD is PAL, but that my blu-ray player somehow works around that. I don't know. I also watched the "From the Sky Down" DVD and it worked fine as well.
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You can pop it into your computer to figure out what format it is. VLC or pretty much any DVD software should give you the info.
PAL is 576i, 25 fps while NTSC is 480i, 29.97 fps.
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It's PAL. I just got mine and popped it in my PS3 and it tells you on the screen. It won't play. What a screw up. Oh my. LOLOLOL
They'll have to re-master their labeling system at Universal. NTSC label. PAL disc. Tsk
Best Buy told me up front they don't take returns on any opened product like this.
I don't care. I'll check the other DVDs later. I already have ZooTV DVD and the fan club audio etc and have watched and listened to that show a gazillion times. Yes it had the German label and EU rating mentioned by Morgan1098.
The book is awesome, the prints are awesome. I already knew the new tracks were awesome. Early merry xmas to me.
Every big name rock band has similar such pricey boxes for sale right now.
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In my experience, most computer DVD drives can play either NTSC or PAL. You might need particularly good software; VLC is my current go-to movie player, be it DVD or otherwise.
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And now for something completely different:
1. Can anyone tell me if Can't Help Falling In Love (Mystery Train Dub) is the same version as on the vinyl Salomé release?
2. Did anyone order the Uber Deluxe and not want their sunglasses?
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What's the story about the alternate (though not labeled as such) EBTTRT? It even makes an appearance on the 2CD set, which is odd as CD2 already has the FOOW mix. At the very least it has different backing vocals and additional guitar parts, the last minute and a half are very noticeably different, but it follows the original pretty faithfully.
I'd like to see yet another AB release, with all the songs on the album done like this - updated for the present but not radically reworked. :) Bring on the nostalgia!
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Yeah, imagine you're in a small, dark cabaret and U2 comes on stage and performs that baby Love Is Blindness. The waiters would have to first collect all the glassware and sharp utensils...and when it's finished, scrape the patrons off their seats. That's one of the most amazing songs I've ever heard.
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Have you downloaded any of the WAV files yet, bobni?
Curious to know whether they are just CD/Redbook standard (16 bit, 44.1 kHz). The phrase "high quality digital version" has me hoping for 24/96 or something of the like.
Just downloaded the first disc. Unfortunately for you Brad, the wav files are standard 16 bit, 44.1 kHz.
Each 'disc' is available as a zip file including the same tracks that are on the cd's.
On another note:
'From The Sky Down' will be released on 21st of November on DVD and Blu-Ray.
Just read on u2tour.de that extras will be included such as acoustic edtions of 'So Cruel', 'The Fly' and 'Love Is Blindness' all recorded at Hansa Studios earlies this year.
Too bad they didn't include these songs in the box set.
I can hardly see myself buying this release just for a couple of bonus tracks, but then again, I'm a collector...
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Received the Super Box Set today. Arrived down under in excellent condition.
The sticker says its a "Limited Edition". I thought the Uber Box Set & The Vinyl set were the limited editions...
The whole is simply wonderful. Listening to the remixes brings back some fond memories.
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Just downloaded the first disc. Unfortunately for you Brad, the wav files are standard 16 bit, 44.1 kHz.
Each 'disc' is available as a zip file including the same tracks that are on the cd's.
Appears that my prayers were heard. HDTracks.net now has the deluxe version in 24-bit FLAC. :o
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Dust off your DVD-A player!
Also, Edge solo acoustic version of LIB now available on the Uber Box download page. No voice-overs! Marvelous.
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Just downloaded the first disc. Unfortunately for you Brad, the wav files are standard 16 bit, 44.1 kHz.
Each 'disc' is available as a zip file including the same tracks that are on the cd's.
Appears that my prayers were heard. HDTracks.net now has the deluxe version in 24-bit FLAC. :o
20% off promo code for hdtracks.com: 20offHDtracks08
Cheers,
u2expert
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... Edge solo acoustic version of LIB now available on the Uber Box download page. No voice-overs! Marvelous.
Any details about the quality?
I'll just have to wait for the 'From the Sky Down' blu-ray with the 3 bonus acoustic tracks!
Cheers,
u2expert
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Download page for Uber box offers mp3 and wav
And now for something completely different:
1. Can anyone tell me if Can't Help Falling In Love (Mystery Train Dub) is the same version as on the vinyl Salomé release?
They are the same
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As I said previously, I plan on buying the Super Deluxe Edition of Achtung Baby. My budget just doesn't allow me to make this purchase right now. But I've read some of the comments about the DVDs. This post is based on the assumption that there is a problem with the DVDs for a US resident buying the Super Deluxe Edition from Amazon [US] and playing the DVDs in a regular DVD player. If this has been cleared up, then let me know. Otherwise, here are a few questions:
1. Is it possible the correct DVDs will be in the Super Deluxe box set if the purchase is made in . . . . . April 2012 for example? That's 6 months from now.
2. Or will they just do the DVD exchange procedure from now on . . . . . even if the purchase is made in . . . . . October 2012 (an entire year from release date)?
I don't expect anyone to have up-to-date accurate answers. I'm just hoping for your opinions (which are based on your previous experiences with this kind of stuff).
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I actually assume that both the Uber and Super Deluxe were both produced in limited quantities and will not be restocked, though I don't know this for a fact. I wouldn't hold out for one packaged with the correct DVD.
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What's the story about the alternate (though not labeled as such) EBTTRT? It even makes an appearance on the 2CD set, which is odd as CD2 already has the FOOW mix. At the very least it has different backing vocals and additional guitar parts, the last minute and a half are very noticeably different, but it follows the original pretty faithfully.
I'd like to see yet another AB release, with all the songs on the album done like this - updated for the present but not radically reworked. :) Bring on the nostalgia!
It's the single version of EBTTRT isn't it? It was labeled on the single that way and in the initial reports about the box....
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Anyone have their Uber set yet? Apparently it comes with a download code and I was wondering what the content was. I only ordered the Super myself.
I've got the Uber edition since Friday.
So far the website for the bonus material doesn't work so I can't tell you what the content is.
I expect it to open in the next couple of days when AB is available worldwide.
The box is absolutely stunning by the way...
Just be careful with the box. If you have all the weight in the top portion and have the drawer out, the weight of the book / vinyl etc actually causes the whole thing to start shifting...mine was that way when it arrived, and the drawer was hard to get out.
It appears they put it together with a sticky gelatinous substance, and not old fashioned glue. I added a couple of spots of hot glue on the top area for support and let it dry and things are much more secure now.
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As I said previously, I plan on buying the Super Deluxe Edition of Achtung Baby. My budget just doesn't allow me to make this purchase right now. But I've read some of the comments about the DVDs. This post is based on the assumption that there is a problem with the DVDs for a US resident buying the Super Deluxe Edition from Amazon [US] and playing the DVDs in a regular DVD player. If this has been cleared up, then let me know. Otherwise, here are a few questions:
1. Is it possible the correct DVDs will be in the Super Deluxe box set if the purchase is made in . . . . . April 2012 for example? That's 6 months from now.
2. Or will they just do the DVD exchange procedure from now on . . . . . even if the purchase is made in . . . . . October 2012 (an entire year from release date)?
I don't expect anyone to have up-to-date accurate answers. I'm just hoping for your opinions (which are based on your previous experiences with this kind of stuff).
Why not call the customer service number at http://achtung.pushexp.com/welcome/ or send an email and ask?! It won't hurt. I just called and got my replacement disc sent out and didn't have to wait, it was a really quick call. They could probably tell you how long the replacement program will go on.
I was told that the replacements would be sent out within a week, and that they would email a tracking number to me when it ships.
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I was told that the replacements would be sent out within a week, and that they would email a tracking number to me when it ships.
I emailed them and got essentially the same response within an hour. If they really come through with replacement discs within two weeks, that's pretty impressive customer service.
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I was told that the replacements would be sent out within a week, and that they would email a tracking number to me when it ships.
I emailed them and got essentially the same response within an hour. If they really come through with replacement discs within two weeks, that's pretty impressive customer service.
Can we get these guys to replace the fan club operators?!
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Aaron and Brad, thank you for responding to my posts. I called the Universal Music phone number you provided in the link. The employee told me:
1. The ZOO TV: Live From Sydney is the only DVD that has a problem playing in regular DVD players here in the US (I initially thought the other DVDs were a problem, too)
2. Both the Uber Edition box set and the Super Deluxe box set have the problem DVD of ZOO TV: Live From Sydney
3. If I wait to buy the Super Deluxe Edition in 2012, I may be able to get a box set that doesn't have a problem DVD of ZOO TV: Live From Sydney.
I already have the original 2-Disc DVD release of ZOO TV: Live From Sydney so I'm not really concerned about this issue. I was initially worried the other DVDs were a problem for regular DVD players in the US. Hopefully, the employee gave me accurate information. Thanks again for your help Aaron and Brad . . . . . I really appreciate it.
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I popped all four DVDs into my computer to check the format. The first three are NTSC as they should be and the Zoo TV Sidney disc is PAL. So at least in my set, that's the only problematic one.
The Zoo TV Sidney disc does play just fine on my computer, BTW.
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How much of an issue has the DVD format been in the States there? Have a lot of people been complaining about the mistake? I only ask out of curiosity because as I understand, DVD players have been equipped to play both formats for quite a while now. I would've thought any player bought within about the last 5 years has the capability of changing formats once the disc is popped in, if not allowing the user to manually change the format (which I understand can be annoying). Same with DVRs. And with TVs these days, although for TVs it's probably those bought within the last 2 years. Not to challenge you guys if you're not able to play the disc, but I was just under the impression these units could play both PAL and NTSC. Certainly in Australia, that's been my experience.
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I have two Samsung Blu-ray players, one of them purchased within the past year, and neither will play a Region 0 PAL DVD.
My old Sony DVD player will play PAL discs, but rather that converting from 576i to 480i, it just crops off the top and bottom.
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I can play the Zoo TV DVD just fine, but I'm still not sure if that's because I got a genuine NTSC copy, or because I got a PAL copy but my blu-ray player (an LG model, less than a year old) can play it. My tv is probably at least 8 years old. I've been meaning to put the DVD in my computer at home to see if I can determine whether it's a PAL or NTSC copy.
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I also am probably gonna wait to buy it. I bought the Bruce Springsteen Darkness set right away at what I thought was a bargain and I think it did come down further after that. So as much as I'd like to see/hear it all, I can wait.
But still wondering is there a list anywhere of all the bonus material (on the DVDs)? Anything that is especially notable?
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Has anyone found any sound tests done on the remaster?
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Has anyone found any sound tests done on the remaster?
Or, for that matter, the 24/96 version?
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If you are referring to the HDtracks version, it is a 24-bit 44.1 master. Maybe its 48khz, but I know it isn't 24/96
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Has anyone legally successfully downloaded the Super and Uber Deluxe versions via iTunes or amazon?
Not on the push site.
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Pretty sure the only place to download the Super/Über stuff is from the Über bonus site.
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Pretty sure the only place to download the Super/Über stuff is from the Über bonus site.
The only place these are available is on the Super / Uber CD versions. Or via the download site that has these up.
They are all over the net on torrent sites and the like, but if you are looking for an 'official' release, so far the only way to get them is through the box sets themselves.
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This is pretty neat
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2uivh41.jpg)
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mastered on analog tape, Dolby SR
Sick Puppy gets a new name *!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/xvyom.jpg)
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My new favorite Bono pic
(http://i44.tinypic.com/17sck9.jpg)
Sorry I'm not doing justice to the photos in this book. The paper stock is very thick.
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I've gotta say, as much as I was looking forward to the music, I'm loving the book on the Super Deluxe. The photos are amazing and every single essay is engaging and worth reading, unlike a few of the essays in the other deluxe editions.
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Does it say what Bono is doing there? It looks like he's reflecting but when I look further, he seems to be reading something. I get my uber set either tomorrow or Tuesday. I'm pumped!
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What's the story about the alternate (though not labeled as such) EBTTRT? It even makes an appearance on the 2CD set, which is odd as CD2 already has the FOOW mix. At the very least it has different backing vocals and additional guitar parts, the last minute and a half are very noticeably different, but it follows the original pretty faithfully.
I'd like to see yet another AB release, with all the songs on the album done like this - updated for the present but not radically reworked. :) Bring on the nostalgia!
It's the single version of EBTTRT isn't it? It was labeled on the single that way and in the initial reports about the box....
are you saying that the single version of ebttrt from deluxe editions is different from the original single version?
after a quick comparison I haven't noticed any difference... is it right?
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What's the story about the alternate (though not labeled as such) EBTTRT? It even makes an appearance on the 2CD set, which is odd as CD2 already has the FOOW mix. At the very least it has different backing vocals and additional guitar parts, the last minute and a half are very noticeably different, but it follows the original pretty faithfully.
I'd like to see yet another AB release, with all the songs on the album done like this - updated for the present but not radically reworked. :) Bring on the nostalgia!
It's the single version of EBTTRT isn't it? It was labeled on the single that way and in the initial reports about the box....
are you saying that the single version of ebttrt from deluxe editions is different from the original single version?
after a quick comparison I haven't noticed any difference... is it right?
Pretty sure that the single version on the Uber edition, and all the rest is just the single version from 1991 that came out on the single.
I haven't noticed any difference between the two.
I have seen some people question if it's the same as the album version in a few places...
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That'd make sense - I haven't listened to the single version for a while (a lot of the U2 stuff I don't listen to regularly is on an external drive not my laptop/iphone). Makes sense, as it's the album version with a little extra punch to it. Still kind of an odd choice for a disc two, given there's already two EBTRRT remixes.
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Still not received mine... Need good scans of cd , insert cover front and back and back cover... Thank you
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Still not received mine... Need good scans of cd , insert cover front and back and back cover... Thank you
In the Interference forum there have been a few (unsuccessful, IMO) attempts to create "covers" for each of the six CDs in the box set. Using the actual art on each CD would work, but so far the only ones I've seen are just a scan of the actual CD. Someone needs to do some major photoshopping and transform the CD art into an actual square, iPod friendly cover.
So what are you guys using for artwork in your iTunes? At this point I just have six original Achtung Baby covers, with the appropriate names for each disc beneath each one.
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I just added them as one giant 'album' with multiple disks. Mileage may vary, but it reduces tapping on my iphone, though it's a bit less effecient for sorting/repeats in iTunes proper.
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Same here. Just one big 72-track album, and I used the cover art from the iTunes Store.
Lazy, I know.
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That'd make sense - I haven't listened to the single version for a while (a lot of the U2 stuff I don't listen to regularly is on an external drive not my laptop/iphone). Makes sense, as it's the album version with a little extra punch to it. Still kind of an odd choice for a disc two, given there's already two EBTRRT remixes.
::: I'm old enough to have listened a lot, those AB cd singles I have since they came out (I'm 40) ???
In 20 years Never, ever, have found any difference between the EBTTRT single version from the cd single and the Achtung Baby Cd album.
We're right. They should've added another song.
how about that WGRYWH VIDEO version?? great mix as it has the best of the Temple Bar remix and the album version...but hell, we missed our chance. :P
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Same here. Just one big 72-track album, and I used the cover art from the iTunes Store.
Lazy, I know.
Mine is one big album as well but broken into discs via iTunes disc x of x field.
Just using the artwork that came from iTunes as well. Had given some thought to scanning the alternate artwork from back then for use on the other discs. It's included in the box in the Propaganda issue, and can also be found in the book four5one (now ampvisual) put out a few years back....
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I just got my uber box today and inside there was a card with Q.C. 001 on it. I know I pre-ordered pretty damn early but I didn't think I'd beat everyone else to the punch. Or did I just get lucky and it was all a coincidence? Is that my number of the limited edition copy, hence I have the very first one?
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I just got my uber box today and inside there was a card with Q.C. 001 on it. I know I pre-ordered pretty damn early but I didn't think I'd beat everyone else to the punch. Or did I just get lucky and it was all a coincidence? Is that my number of the limited edition copy, hence I have the very first one?
::: It's easier to get U23-Three 12" numbered #0001 than the Uber Box numbered low.
Q.C. Stands for "QUALITY CONTROL - 001" <---- number of employee in that area that checked/tested your item, before being released to commercial affairs. 8)
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Yeah, the number for the Uber Box is printed on the side in gold. ;D
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Ha! Excellent. I actually have No. 5461. Big drop from No. 1. Thanks guys.
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In 20 years Never, ever, have found any difference between the EBTTRT single version from the cd single and the Achtung Baby Cd album.
Not to be argumentative, but there ARE clear differences in instrumentation, especially in the last minute of the song, between the two versions. Now the difference between the album and single versions of "Angel of Harlem"? That's the one that I can't figure out at all...
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Okay the .wav downloads that came with the uber box have necessitated my foray into understanding decompression etc. What I want to know is, if I convert the .wav files into .m4a with iTunes, thus making the files smaller, if I then convert those same .m4a files back to .wav, will I be back to the same uncompressed (i.e. same quality) files that the original .wavs were? Or does the compression destroy some of the quality that a reversal won't bring back? I ask because they're too large to sync to my phone and it takes up way too much space on there anyway, but I'd also like the option of listening to the .wav version in all its uncompressed glory without having to keep two versions of the same songs on my computer.
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It's called lossy compression for a reason. Converting to AAC (M4A) absolutely irreversibly compromises the sound quality.
Try using Apple Lossless; it will at least cut the file sizes in half without losing any quality.
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Okay the .wav downloads that came with the uber box have necessitated my foray into understanding decompression etc. What I want to know is, if I convert the .wav files into .m4a with iTunes, thus making the files smaller, if I then convert those same .m4a files back to .wav, will I be back to the same uncompressed (i.e. same quality) files that the original .wavs were? Or does the compression destroy some of the quality that a reversal won't bring back? I ask because they're too large to sync to my phone and it takes up way too much space on there anyway, but I'd also like the option of listening to the .wav version in all its uncompressed glory without having to keep two versions of the same songs on my computer.
You cannot uncompress m4a and restore quality. The information is lost. m4a is a "lossy" format, meaning information has been lost.
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I just received a follow-up email from Universal Music regarding the replacement Sydney DVD. They sent me a UPS tracking number and it is supposed to ship today.
Not quite as quick as they originally claimed, but still lightning fast by Live Nation standards. ;D
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The replacement DVD shipped today from Indianapolis and is supposed to arrive on Monday.
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Does anyone know what is happening with stock levels of the Super Deluxe Box Set? No where is selling it new now, and I need it for a Christmas present. It wasn't limited edition was it?
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I have one still sealed if your interesting (open on side by french store to be sure all cd & dvd are include, in france many boxes come without cd & dvd or some cd missing...)
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Thank you very much for your kind offer, but a family member has managed to get one!!!! Great!!!!
Thank you again
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The replacement DVD shipped today from Indianapolis and is supposed to arrive on Monday.
Someone on the Interference forum reported that their replacement DVD was actually Disc 2 of the original Zoo TV Live in Sydney set. :o
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Just got mine. Unfortunately this is true. :o
Maybe they contracted this out to Live Nation after all.
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This is hilarious. Maybe it's Universal's fault since they just bought the EMI catalog and they're in shock.
Perhaps the next replacement might be a Coldplay video. ;D or a Beatles...
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If anyone ends up with a Zoo TV Disc 2 and would like to unload it, I'll take it off your hands. I never got the original set. :)
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With a whole 4 DVDs of visual content in this set, is everything from the original "Achtung Baby: The Videos, the Cameos, and a Whole Lot of Interference from Zoo TV" VHS included?
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no, the video of Until the end of the world is sadly missing
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no, the video of Until the end of the world is sadly missing
If memory serves, there were odd bits in between the videos on the original VHS. Are these included then? It is just the "Until The End.." video that isn't (which at least was on "The Best Of 1990 - 2000" DVD)?
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It is just the "Until The End.." video that isn't (which at least was on "The Best Of 1990 - 2000" DVD)?
Actually, that's incorrect. The video of "Until the End of the World" on the BEST OF 1990-2000 DVD is a live version. The VHS/LaserDisc of "...Whole Lot of Interference..." is the only place to find the concept video, sadly.
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Does anyone knows what's the total number of Uber Box Set that were issued ?
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I'm not sure on the numbers produced but I can tell you this...they are individually numbered with a four digit number. Mine is #4014, so that would imply more than 4000 copies and less than 9999. Who else splurged on the box? What number did you get?!
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Mine is 1885