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Title: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: u2expert on January 23, 2011, 12:54:59 AM
On occasion U2.com post unreleased or rare streaming songs. Could someone please verify my dates? Am I missing anything?

'Winter' (clip) from Brothers film was streamed 2009-12-04
MP3 256Kbps
NOTE: Full release 2009-12-07 on InContention.com, but only 160Kbps

'Soon' was streamed on 2010-06-30
http://www.u2.com/news/article/5690
MP3 320Kbps

'Moment of Surrender' (Live from Paris, September 18th 2010) & 'I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight (Live U2360 Remix)' (Live from Dublin, July 27th 2009) were both streamed on 2010-11-17
NOTE: The same live version of 'Moment of Surrender' was available earlier 2010-09-21 as part of BornHIVFree
http://www.u2.com/news/title/wide-awake-moment
MP3 256Kbps

'Mercy' (Live from Brussels, September 22nd 2010) was streamed starting on 2010-11-26
http://www.u2.com/news/title/mercy-now-streaming
MP3 256Kbps

'Sunday Bloody Sunday' (Live from Auckland, November 25th 2010) U2 and Jay-Z was streamed 2010-12-11
NOTE: I only recently heard of this, Iíd appreciate a direct link to u2.com
http://www.u2.com/news/article/5936
MP3 256Kbps
Thanks Aaron & slaneman

'Amazing Grace/Where The Streets Have No Name' (Live from Pasadena, October 25th 2009) U2 and Soweto Gospel Choir was downloadable 2010-12-24
MP3 320Kbps

Additions as of 2011-01-26, thanks Brad.

'Elevation' (Live from Pasadena, October 25th 2009) was streamed starting on 2010-06-21
'Magnificent' (Live from Pasadena, October 25th 2009) was streamed starting on 2010-06-21
'I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight' (Live from Pasadena, October 25th 2009) was streamed starting on 2010-06-21
'I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For' (Live from Pasadena, October 25th 2009) was streamed starting on 2010-06-21
http://www.u2.com/news/title/four-songs-from-the-rose-bowl/
MP3 320Kbps

'Even Better Than The Real Thing (Live from U2360)' was downloadable 2012-01-29
Source: Mexico City, Mexico - May 15, 2011
Note: U2.com exclusive to 2012 subscribers
http://www.u2.com/service/profile
MP3 320kbps/44kHz
Duration: 04:27

More updates coming...


Cheers,
u2expert
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on January 23, 2011, 08:53:13 PM
I thought that I'll Go Crazy only became available on November 21, not the same day as Moment of Surrender.

Since you include a note about MOS being previously available officially on YouTube, you may as well note that Crazy was also previously available on Artificial Horizon.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on January 24, 2011, 02:55:14 PM
looks like you have it all.  although as mentioned, the Wide Awake in Europe tracks were spread out over a couple of days and didn't all go out at once.

I can no longer find a link to the story about Jay-z and U2 doing SBS, but it was up there for 24 hours.  It was around December 10 - 12, as I was in the UK at the time going to Arcade Fire shows...
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: u2expert on January 24, 2011, 11:19:10 PM
I can no longer find a link to the story about Jay-z and U2 doing SBS, but it was up there for 24 hours.  It was around December 10 - 12, as I was in the UK at the time going to Arcade Fire shows...
Thank you. It was posted Dec 11th - http://www.u2.com/news/article/5936

Unfortunately, no indication as to the live performance date. Youtube my have the answer or the soon to be released Duets CD.

Cheers,
u2expert
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on January 25, 2011, 06:14:31 PM
soon to be released.  you're funny.  i expect i'll get Duals in August, after fighting with Live Nation customer service for months.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on January 25, 2011, 06:19:29 PM
And I believe it can only be one of two dates.  Either the first NZ show or the first Australian show.  I'm pretty sure that Jay-Z didn't do the duet the other nights leading up to Sydney.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on January 26, 2011, 11:02:34 AM
Sunday Bloody Sunday (Live Auckland, November 25, 2010+Jay-Z) [U2.com]

 ;)

Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on January 26, 2011, 01:12:11 PM
They also streamed four tracks from the Rose Bowl concert in July 2010. The files I have were "created" on July 21, but I don't recall when they put them up or took them down. I had started a thread but it must have been lost in the crash.

The tracks were Magnificent, I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, Elevation, and I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight. Bitrate was 320 kbps. These same tracks were also available on a promo CD.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: u2expert on January 26, 2011, 03:52:55 PM
They also streamed four tracks from the Rose Bowl concert in July 2010. The files I have were "created" on July 21, but I don't recall when they put them up or took them down. I had started a thread but it must have been lost in the crash.

Thank you I missed those, the 4 tracks are still available to u2.com subscribers.
Modified my original post.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on January 26, 2011, 04:02:53 PM
Ah, thanks for the detective work. Glad to see they are still up.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on February 07, 2011, 02:37:48 PM
I'm going to create a page in the discography for all of these.  They aren't necessarily "releases", however, I would like to keep track of stuff they stream.  So all the info above is great stuff...
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on February 12, 2011, 08:36:34 AM
Sunday Bloody Sunday (Live Auckland, November 25, 2010+Jay-Z) [U2.com]
 ;)

Slaneman, maybe I'm dense, but I'm not getting the wink.  Is there are link somewhere?

I missed this file when it was released, but I have since found a copy.  Does anyone have the original file from U2.com?  I mean completely unmodified.  Was it just a numbered mp3 like the rest of them?

I'm going to create a page in the discography for all of these.  They aren't necessarily "releases", however, I would like to keep track of stuff they stream.  So all the info above is great stuff...

Aaron, I'd argue that these are in fact legitimate releases.  I see them to be the equivalent of of a fan club CD and an iTunes exclusive combined.  The files are available in download form only and to fan club members.  I say that they warrant a different section from other free downloads like RAC remix of Magnificent or Richard Vission's remix of I'll Go Crazy, which authorized U2 releases that were (are?) available to the general public on these artists' respective websites.

Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on February 16, 2011, 07:13:55 AM
I'm going to create a page in the discography for all of these.  They aren't necessarily "releases", however, I would like to keep track of stuff they stream.  So all the info above is great stuff...

Aaron, I'd argue that these are in fact legitimate releases.  I see them to be the equivalent of of a fan club CD and an iTunes exclusive combined.  The files are available in download form only and to fan club members.  I say that they warrant a different section from other free downloads like RAC remix of Magnificent or Richard Vission's remix of I'll Go Crazy, which authorized U2 releases that were (are?) available to the general public on these artists' respective websites.

The ones that have been made available via download I'll definitely be capturing in the main discography.

The ones I mention as not necessarily "releases" are the ones which are streaming only, and are not available for download, at least on the surface.  Things like Sunday Bloody Sunday, Wide Awake in America and Soon, were streamed, but the intention was not to have them available for download.  Obviously one can figure out ways of getting to these files to keep them, but it isn't the intention of u2.com that these be downloaded...
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on May 28, 2011, 02:55:00 AM
Edits:
'Amazing Grace/Where The Streets Have No Name' [Live]
filename: HolidayDownload.zip
http://www.u2.com/digital_download?AID=1613 (http://www.u2.com/digital_download?AID=1613) (actually, just www.u2.com/digital_download (http://www.u2.com/digital_download) seems to work, but maybe only until they make a second track available)
(http://cdn.u2.com/images/email/giftC-2.png)

'Winter' [clip] URL
http://www.u2.com/news/article/5580 (http://www.u2.com/news/article/5580)

'Winter' [full version] URL
http://incontention.com/2009/12/07/listen-to-u2s-winter-from-brothers/ (http://incontention.com/2009/12/07/listen-to-u2s-winter-from-brothers/)

'Moment Of Surrender' [Live] from Paris, YouTube original posting URL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kct7M2ZbnuY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kct7M2ZbnuY)


Additions:
45519.flv - 'Zooropa' [Live] from Mexico City, 11?/14?/15? May, 2011, was streamed 2011-05-18
FLV format (audio: MPEG AAC, 1411Kbps, 44100 Hz, 16 bit; video: H264 MPEG-4 AVC, 1024x576, 30fps)
http://www.u2.com/news/article/6084 (http://www.u2.com/news/article/6084)

45648.flv - 'Get On Your Boots' [Live] from Denver, 21 May, 2011, was streamed 2011-05-23
FLV format (audio: MPEG AAC, 1411Kbps, 44100 Hz, 16 bit; video: H264 MPEG-4 AVC, 1280x720, 30fps)
http://www.u2.com/news/article/6091 (http://www.u2.com/news/article/6091)

Am I right in assuming that we're only documenting full releases and not items such as Bono's talk in Mexico City during Pride (www.u2.com/news/article/6081) (http://www.u2.com/news/article/6081))?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Krys on May 28, 2011, 04:39:41 AM
They also streamed Bad live from Buenos Aires, if that even counts as a full length video.

40695.flv - 'Bad' [Live] from Buenos Aires, 03 April, 2011, was streamed 2011-04-07
FLV format (audio: MPEG AAC, 1411Kbps, 44100 Hz, 16 bit; video: H264 MPEG-4 AVC, 1280x720, 30fps)
http://www.u2.com/news/article/6036
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on June 01, 2011, 01:05:07 AM
Zooropa is from May 11  ;) *

*The wink just means I got your back. Nice work notating all the streams.

Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: MartinTexas on June 09, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
Zooropa is from May 11  ;) *
*The wink just means I got your back. Nice work notating all the streams.
Thanks for info!  ;)  My file was labeled as 2011-05-1X - now I know what X is.  ;D

Great to collect info about u2.com streams, but what about other sites? What about official stream of Pasadena concert? Some versions slightly vary from official DVD/BD.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on July 02, 2011, 05:30:09 PM
We can add the Glastonbury tracks:

The Fly, ISHFWILF, and WOWY. 256 kbps MP3.

http://www.u2.com/news/title/u23-exclusive-tracks-live-from-glastonbury
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: osullic on August 08, 2011, 06:23:41 PM
I'm going to reach out here...
I'm a fully paid-up subscriber to u2.com but missed Soon when it was streaming - a two-day window isn't much! I'm wondering about the original unmodified "numbered" mp3 that was streamed - as Aaron said, not intended for download on the surface, but if you know what you're doing...
I know it's on YouTube, etc, but you know it's not the same:)
Here's hoping...
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on August 09, 2011, 09:30:43 PM
Bono's backing vocals appear on both Path To Zero (Radio Edit) and Path To Zero (Collage) found here. (http://www.publicmediaservice.org/2011/07/path-to-zero-jonathan-elias/) Neither track appears on the Path To Zero album, just the longer full version. They are 320 kbps MP3. A direct download link won't work, but I was able to grab them from my Safari cache.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: u2expert on February 03, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
'Even Better Than The Real Thing (Live from U2360)' was downloadable 2012-01-29
Source: Mexico City, Mexico - May 15, 2011
Note: U2.com exclusive to 2012 subscribers
http://www.u2.com/service/profile
MP3 320kbps/44kHz
Duration: 04:27

More updates coming...

Cheers,
u2expert
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Krys on February 21, 2012, 02:14:09 PM
'One Tree Hill' (Live from U2360į) - Available as a free download at U2.com, 2012-02-21.
Source: 2010-11-26 - Auckland, New Zealand
MP3 320kbps/44kHz
Duration: 05:31
Note: U2.com exclusive to 2012 subscribers
http://www.u2.com/service/profile
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: PatrickM on February 28, 2012, 02:18:40 PM

Hello --

What program do you use in order to rip the streaming audio? For video I use Download Helper for Firefox, but I haven't been able to find a nice one for audio files. The ones I've used had less-than-stellar results...

Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: hmtmkmkm on February 28, 2012, 06:38:01 PM
I use an app called Audio Hijack Pro. But even the free version Audio Hijack should do the job. I believe it gives you the option of recording in an uncompressed format like .wav but only under 10 minutes each time. Which should be fine for a couple songs. But look it up to be sure.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on February 28, 2012, 07:13:38 PM
I use Replay Media Catcher to capture audio streams. It captures the stream digitally in its native format rather than recording it so there's no loss of quality.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: PatrickM on February 28, 2012, 09:57:55 PM

Thanks a lot!

I will give both a try, but I think Brad's tip is closer to what I was looking for. Got a bit disappointed due to some apps that recorded the file with bad results.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: osullic on March 13, 2012, 07:13:18 AM
Streams on u2.com are delivered by HTTP. They are simple to save once you have the URL. I use a program called URL Snooper to get the URL. Then, any download manager should be able to download the file. The Firefox Add-on DownThemAll is my choice.

I'm still annoyed I missed Soon :(
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on May 16, 2012, 02:15:54 PM
'Unknown Caller' (Live from U2360į) - Available as a free download at U2.com, 2012-05-16.
Source: ?
MP3 320kbps/44kHz
Duration: 06:22
Note: U22 bonus track, exclusive to U2.com 2012 subscribers
http://www.u2.com/service/profile

If anyone knows the source, I'll update it.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on May 16, 2012, 02:22:27 PM
Sounds like Bono says "Wembley Stadium" at 5:53, so either 08/14/2009 or 08/15/2009?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on May 16, 2012, 03:27:08 PM
Awesome.  Finally a track that won't be on the CD.  Speaking of which, an announcement about U22 is supposedly coming later today (16 May)... we shall see.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: hmtmkmkm on June 18, 2012, 11:38:47 PM
'Unknown Caller' (Live from U2360į) - Available as a free download at U2.com, 2012-05-16.
Source: ?
MP3 320kbps/44kHz
Duration: 06:22
Note: U22 bonus track, exclusive to U2.com 2012 subscribers
http://www.u2.com/service/profile

If anyone knows the source, I'll update it.

I've done the homework for you and listened to bootlegs of the 8/14 and 8/15 shows and I have some interesting info.

The beginning and end of the 8/14 bootleg match the beginning and end of the track uploaded by U2.com, so it's safe to have it down as being from 8/14/2009 in London. However, the first verse includes a slight change in lyrics courtesy of the 8/15 show, presumably because he messed it up on 8/14. On 8/14, he sings "in a place of no company... or sufferecy" (I can't for the life of me make out what he says there), but on 8/15 he sings "in a place of no consequence... or company" and he sings those words in the same style as he did on what was uploaded to U2.com.

So it's definitely 99.9% the 8/14/2009 show, apart from that one line, which came from 8/15/2009.

I couldn't sense anything else mixed in because I listened to them both simultaneously and at the same speeds and didn't hear any other differences. However, I'm not musically technical so I can't tell if anything of that sort was changed, but it didn't appear to be.

I can also send the files to anyone who wants to take a listen themselves, but perhaps only as an .mp3 because they're too large to email as uncompressed.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on June 19, 2012, 12:09:56 AM
Intersting indeed.  :)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: dagobah on June 19, 2012, 05:13:01 AM
Yeah, that is interesting.  I love it when someone else pays attention to little details and makes the effort to figure stuff out.  I do this many times myself.  Most people don't care about these kinds of things.  But for people like us . . . . . these kinds of details can sometimes be important . . . . . even if figuring them out is a pain-in-the-ass.  Thanks for the effort, u2hmtmkmkm.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: hmtmkmkm on June 20, 2012, 12:41:33 AM
No worries. It came about because I was importing the tracks to iTunes with the dates in parentheses next to the name of each track and I realised that song didn't have a date yet. And normally u2wanderer is the best place for that info, so it's good to contribute something to it.

I wanted to listen to it one more time because I thought I detected a new sound on the U2.com version that I hadn't heard before in any other version. For those who have the U2.com download, listen at 3:55 and that sound comes in. I have no idea how to describe it. It's like a high-low-high-low horn of some sort. I thought that was new to this version, but it turns out the bootleg from 8/14 has it anyway, so I can say to the best of my ears, 8/14 is identical, with the substituted line from 8/15.
Title: FROM THE GROUND UP: U2.com Music Edition exclusive bonus downloads; U2 vs TiŽsto
Post by: George on November 23, 2012, 06:37:20 AM
Adding the following:
372177.mp3 - U2 vs TiŽsto - Pride (In The Name Of Love)
MP3 format (256 Kb/s, 44100 Hz)
was streamed beginning at 8:00 PM GMT on Thursday, November 22, 2012
U2.com subscribers' exclusive premiere
http://www.u2.com/news/title/u2-vs-tisto-pride-in-the-name-of-love
(http://cdn.u2.com/non_secure/images/20121123/news/dancered1/small.jpg)

SpanishEyes_LiveU2360.zip - Spanish Eyes [Live] from San Sebastien, Spain, 2010-09-26
MP3 format (320 Kb/s, 44100 Hz)
available for download on November 9, 2012
U2.com 2013 subscriber's package
http://www.u2.com/service/profile

NoLineOnTheHorizon_LiveU2360.zip - No Line On The Horizon [Live] from Sheffield, UK, when?
MP3 format (320 Kb/s, 44100 Hz)
U2.com 2013 subscriber's package
available for download on November 9, 2012
http://www.u2.com/service/profile

Desire_LivefromU2360.zip - Desire [Live] from Perth, Australia, December 19, 2010
MP3 format (320 Kb/s, 44100 Hz)
U2.com 2013 subscriber's package
available for download on November 29, 2012
http://www.u2.com/service/profile
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on November 24, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
Adding the following:
U2 with Paul Brill - Walk On [Edited Film Version]
length: 3:13
track 18 of 19 from "Burma Soldier - OFFICIAL SOUNDTRACK", released 17 May, 2011
available for free download from: http://paulbrill.bandcamp.com/track/walk-on-edited-film-version (http://paulbrill.bandcamp.com/track/walk-on-edited-film-version)
originally recorded: Saitama Super Arena, Tokyo, 29 November, 2006

various formats:

U2 with Paul Brill - Walk On [Full Acoustic Version]
length: 4:24
track 19 of 19 from "Burma Soldier - OFFICIAL SOUNDTRACK", released 17 May 2011
available for free download from: http://paulbrill.bandcamp.com/track/walk-on-full-acoustic-version (http://paulbrill.bandcamp.com/track/walk-on-full-acoustic-version)

various formats:

(http://f0.bcbits.com/z/14/11/1411159580-1.jpg)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on November 24, 2012, 03:55:56 PM
Thanks for that George. I had no idea those two tracks with Paul Brill existed.  Nice surprise!! :)  And very nice, also available in FLAC.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on November 24, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
Nice find, George.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on November 24, 2012, 07:01:13 PM
Thanks, George, very cool.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on November 24, 2012, 08:25:00 PM
Totally 'new acoustic version' according to the website and very intriguing recording to say the least. Awesome guitar by Edge. Wow.

Flac sound quality is really excellent. Would love to see details for this recording.

'You'll never walk alone" snippet at the end and a tiny bit of audience sound. Hmmm. Maybe the last part was tacked on somehow because it sounds like a studio recording. If that's a Declan soundboard mix it's brilliant.

 
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on November 24, 2012, 08:28:59 PM
Thanks, George, very cool.

I put a holder in place for the lyrics for the new site. :)  I've been working on things today. 
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on November 25, 2012, 10:01:03 AM
I had no idea those two tracks with Paul Brill existed.  Nice surprise!! :)  And very nice, also available in FLAC.

Isn't it?!  Discovering this was much more of a score than getting the Tiesto Pride thing.

Also, I started to think that it was strange that U2.com never mentioned this, but then I noticed the release date and realized that it came out during the Duals era of awfulness, not the U22 era of excellence (or at least great improvement).
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on November 25, 2012, 10:34:00 AM
I initially downloaded this in Apple Lossless and didn't realize the FLAC is 24-bit. Even better!

Thanks again, George. Not sure how this escaped the collective consciousness.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on November 25, 2012, 12:09:03 PM
I initially downloaded this in Apple Lossless and didn't realize the FLAC is 24-bit. Even better!

Thanks again, George. Not sure how this escaped the collective consciousness.

My absolute pleasure!

Now regarding the 24-bit quality, I, too, noticed this, but I wonder if it actually is 24-bit quality or if it was just up-sampled.  Can someone who knows what they're doing check the waveform or do some spectral analysis or whatever it is you need to do to verify this?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on November 25, 2012, 05:28:54 PM
I'm not sure how to verify bit depth, but I'll pose the question in one of the audiophile forums and see what I can find out.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on November 26, 2012, 09:36:56 AM
Let me add my thanks as well.  It's nice to get something totally out of left field like this!  The string arrangement makes this much more interesting and different than just a typical "acoustic version."

I'd be curious to learn how this all came about.  The edit sounds like it segues from the album version, and as someone else has mentioned, the "you'll never walk alone" line may or may not be a studio recording rather than a live snippet.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on November 28, 2012, 12:40:26 AM
Now regarding the 24-bit quality, I, too, noticed this, but I wonder if it actually is 24-bit quality or if it was just up-sampled.  Can someone who knows what they're doing check the waveform or do some spectral analysis or whatever it is you need to do to verify this?

I did some research into this, and it's not as simple as running a spectral analysis.

The simplest algorithm for upconverting 16-bit to 24-bit is to pad the 8 least significant bits with zeroes. The FLAC command line encoder is able to scan FLAC files for these padded or "wasted" bits. More detail on that here. (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=97746&st=0)

I scanned the "full version" using this method and FLAC returned 0 wasted bits, so this appears to be a true 24-bit file.

The problem is, if any noise shaping or other digital signal processing was applied to an unconverted file after the fact, the least significant bits would be non-zero, and would mask the evidence of the upconversion.

I don't see any reason for duplicitousness in this case since they are giving the files away for free, so I would assume these are true 24-bit FLACs.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on November 28, 2012, 07:11:39 AM
Thanks for checking that out, Brad!

My concern wasn't that someone was being deceitful.  Rather, I thought that maybe it recorded in 16-bit and then someone simply chose "Save as" and selected 24-bit.  As you point out, though, that would just lead to having padded zeros.

I agree, there's no reason do doubt.

Am I right that this is the highest digital quality U2 release to date?  (The previous, I believe, was Achtung Baby on hdtracks.com in 44100 Hz / 24-bit.)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on November 28, 2012, 11:35:46 AM
Am I right that this is the highest digital quality U2 release to date?  (The previous, I believe, was Achtung Baby on hdtracks.com in 44100 Hz / 24-bit.)

I can't think of any other compilations with U2 content that have been released in hi-rez, so I think that's correct.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on November 28, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
Releases like this are strange.  Apparently this was released in mid-2011, and yet it has gone completely unacknowledged--certainly not acknowledged by U2 or the record company in any official capacity--until George stumbled across it a few days ago.  It's strange that it has been so under-the-radar, especially since it's a quality remix and a unique take on the song.

I feel the same way about "Magnificent (RAC Mix)."  It's as good or better than any of the remixes on the official Magnificent single, and yet as far as I know it hasn't been acknowledged anywhere as an "official" release.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on November 28, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
I feel the same way about "Magnificent (RAC Mix)."  It's as good or better than any of the remixes on the official Magnificent single, and yet as far as I know it hasn't been acknowledged anywhere as an "official" release.

Indeed it is good.

There's a similar lack of acknowledgement for six of remixes of Magnificent that were, as far as I am aware, only available from masterbeat.com or eventvibe.com.

edit: I just went to check masterbeat.com.  Are they no longer selling music?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on November 28, 2012, 06:05:38 PM
Masterbeat killed off their MP3 store awhile back. I still get emails from them inviting me to attend raves and such. :)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on November 30, 2012, 08:45:03 AM
I haven't confirmed this myself, but this Burma Soldier version of Walk On is apparently a live acoustic performance (Saitama Super Arena, Tokyo, 29th November 2006) with (most of) the crowd noise edited out and the strings added in.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on November 30, 2012, 02:43:33 PM
Including the "you will never walk alone" part?  I thought that was only done on the most recent tour.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on November 30, 2012, 04:20:22 PM
I've had a recording of that on my drive for a long time now and never put two and two together.  It's the same performance, right down to the ending with the "You will never walk alone".  The version I have sounds like it's from a soundboard, very little to no sound of the crowd in the mix.  The only thing missing is the orcherstral bits...the recording claimed to be from an IEM device, and was actually a recording of the 12-04 show in Saitama.  The acoustic version of "Walk On" is an extra from the other night...
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on November 30, 2012, 09:12:49 PM
Thanks for posting where that came from. I just had to dig out my recordings and check it out myself though I would not have remembered they did this in 2006. Ha.

Yep, definitely Saitama 11-29 and quite an interesting mix job. As far as what was posted on the Burma Soldier website, they must have been using a different meaning for 'new' in 'new acoustic version'.  :)

They edited out Bono's dedication at the beginning and Edge running thru the changes a couple times waiting for Bono...and the audience sounds sneak in here and there during the song. But from what I hear (IEM matrix and audience recordings) it's otherwise unedited. Edge's singing was also the same. And 'all that you can and cannot feel"  ;D

Anyways, it's a very good performance.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on December 03, 2012, 09:26:25 AM
Interesting history on this version.  So I guess it belongs in the same category as the Brothers in Rhythm remixes of "Staring at the Sun," which added studio elements to the live version from the PopHeart EP.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on December 05, 2012, 10:43:49 PM
Yep, and the Jacknife Lee remix of Ave Maria.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on December 01, 2013, 04:17:36 PM
To add:
song: Ordinary Love
file: U2_Ordinary_Love.zip
release date: 2013-11-30
format: MP3 320Kbps, 44100 Hz
duration: 3:39
from: http://www.u2.com/service/profile
note: U2.com exclusive to active subscribers
(http://cdn.u2.com/non_secure/images/20131030/news/u2_ordinarylove_vinyl_cover_web/small.jpg)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on October 09, 2014, 12:03:27 PM
http://www.u2.com/news/title/the-crystal-ballroom-12-mix-now-streaming
The Crystal Ballroom (12" Mix) - remix by Tchad Blake
256kbps mp3 file.
07:27 in length.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on October 09, 2014, 01:42:58 PM
http://www.u2.com/news/title/the-crystal-ballroom-12-mix-now-streaming
The Crystal Ballroom (12" Mix) - remix by Tchad Blake
256kbps mp3 file.
07:27 in length.

I'm adding the following:

File name is "462729.mp3" (streaming - must be captured)
Sample rate is 44100 Hz
Artwork, if one wanted to include it, is from the same webpage:
(http://cdn.u2.com/non_secure/images/20141009/news/crystalballroom_sleeveart/large.jpg)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on February 23, 2015, 04:38:23 PM
'Every Breaking Wave (New Radio Mix)' was streamed on 2015-02-23
Available to subscribers only.
http://www.u2.com/news/title/every-breaking-wave-new-radio-mix
MP3 256 Kbps (478183.mp3)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on May 02, 2015, 02:42:19 PM
Add Every Breaking Wave [Radio Mix] as a subscriber-only download, no longer just a stream.

URL: http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=EveryBreakingWaveRadioMixmp3.zip (http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=EveryBreakingWaveRadioMixmp3.zip)
File name: EveryBreakingWaveRadioMixmp3.zip
 - contains: Every Breaking Wave - radio mix.mp3
 - file creation date: 2015-05-01
made available: May 2, 2015.  Maybe May 1, given the creation date.

Track name info oddities:
 - U2 website name it : Radio Edit
 - downloaded file name: Radio Mix
 - file's ID3 tag title: New Radio Mix

encoding: MP3 320 kb/s stereo

Artwork is embedded in the file.  This is a first, I think.

(http://cdn.u2.com/non_secure/images/20150311/discography/u2_everybreakingwave/250.jpg)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on May 02, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
First time a studio single has been made available as a website exclusive download; yes, I think you are correct.

Or did you mean embedded artwork?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on May 02, 2015, 10:07:12 PM
I meant that it was the first time a file from U2.com has had embedded artwork, but I believe you're right on the first part, too.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: jmelrose on May 06, 2015, 01:06:16 PM
I have been checking link after link for a FLAC of a rip from the CD of the Crystal Ballroom 12" version. LOVE IT.  However, I have had zero luck finding it as anything but a vinyl rip. Can you advise (PM) me as to where you were able to find a copy (and also what the source of the audio was)?
Thanks,
JMelrose, who misses u2mp3.com
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Scarlet on May 06, 2015, 11:21:03 PM
I have been checking link after link for a FLAC of a rip from the CD of the Crystal Ballroom 12" version. LOVE IT.  However, I have had zero luck finding it as anything but a vinyl rip. Can you advise (PM) me as to where you were able to find a copy (and also what the source of the audio was)?
Thanks,
JMelrose, who misses u2mp3.com

You just have to know where to look... never went away

u2vox
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on May 22, 2015, 10:17:32 AM
Edit: I updated this post as songs were released.

Add The Ocean [Live] as a subscriber-only download.  It's the first track to be made available for download from the (as of this posting) forthcoming "Another Time, Another Place: Live At The Marquee London, 1980" fan club release.

Add 11 O'Clock Tick Tock [Live] as a subscriber-only download.  It's the second track to be made available for download.

Add I Will Follow [Live] as a subscriber-only download.  It's the third track to be made available for download.

Add, all packaged into one, the complete (minus Bono's reflection) subscriber-only album, Another Time, Another Place: Live At The Marquee London, 1980.  With it's availability, the previous three individual tracks were removed from the download list.

All are available from the member's profile page for download.

URL: http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=TheOcean_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip (http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=TheOcean_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip)
File name: TheOcean_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip
 - contains: 1-01 The Ocean.mp3
 - file creation date: 2015-05-21
made available: May 22, 2015 - August 24, 2015.
encoding: MP3 320 kb/s stereo

URL: http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=11OclockTickTock_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip (http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=11OclockTickTock_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip)
File name: 11OclokTickTock_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip
 - contains: 02_11O'ClockTickTock-LiveAtTheMarquee,London-September29th,1980_2444_MP3-Premaster_17Apr2015.mp3
 - file creation date: 2015-06-11
made available: June 11, 2015 - August 24, 2015.
encoding: MP3 320 kb/s stereo

URL: http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=IWillFollow_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip (http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=IWillFollow_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip)
File name: IWillFollow_AnotherTimeAnotherPlace.zip
 - contains: 3- I Will Follow.mp3
 - file creation date: 2015-07-01
made available: July 08, 2015 - August 24, 2015.
encoding: MP3 320 kb/s stereo

URL: http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=U2AnotherTimeAnotherPlaceLive_Complete.zip (http://mr.u2.com/clients/cdn/index.php?f=U2AnotherTimeAnotherPlaceLive_Complete.zip)
File name: U2AnotherTimeAnotherPlaceLive_Complete.zip
 - contains:
- file creation dates: 2015-07-27, except for tracks 7 and 8, which are 2015-07-29
made available: August 24, 2015.
encoding: MP3 320 kb/s stereo

Artwork is embedded in each of the MP3 files.
(http://cdn.u2.com/non_secure/images/20150521/atap1432260843/large.jpg)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on April 07, 2017, 12:31:18 AM
The version of Mercy streaming on Aaron's playlist downloads as 179362.mp3 (256 kbps).

I converted the old version and this new version to AIFF and ran checksums, and they are identical.

Code: [Select]
Brads-iMac:~ bradhood$ md5 /Users/bradhood/Desktop/Mercy\ 1.aif
MD5 (/Users/bradhood/Desktop/Mercy 1.aif) = ab22191ab7c28d65022cc0debd25e569
Brads-iMac:~ bradhood$ md5 /Users/bradhood/Desktop/Mercy\ 2.aif
MD5 (/Users/bradhood/Desktop/Mercy 2.aif) = ab22191ab7c28d65022cc0debd25e569

That means the two MP3's are identical. Same encoder and everything. That's the only way you would get identical checksums.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: U2Joshua on April 07, 2017, 10:29:08 AM
very cool, Brad.

...btw - speaking of "Mercy," does anyone know what the highest / best quality source is for the original "studio outtake" version?  I remember finding it in 128Kbps .mp3, back in 2004 or thereabouts, and then years later saw it somewhere in FLAC, but I don't know if it was a legitimate lossless file or if someone upconverted it.  Seems like there may have been a 320Kbps .mp3, at one point, too..., but again, not sure if it was unconverted or not.

Thanks~
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on April 07, 2017, 02:17:19 PM
AFAIK, the "original" source is a 128 kbps WMA file that was ripped from a CD that was burned from a cassette copy of a pre-release version of HTDAAB.

No, I'm not kidding.

I have a copy of that WMA file somewhere if anyone is interested. It has a lot of hiss because it came from a cassette copy. There are MP3s floating around online that have had the hiss removed, but unless someone knows otherwise, any FLACs or higher-bitrate MP3s online are just re-encodes of that original file.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on April 07, 2017, 03:59:42 PM

I have a copy of that WMA file somewhere if anyone is interested.

Me!  8)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on April 07, 2017, 04:06:30 PM

I have a copy of that WMA file somewhere if anyone is interested.

Me!  8)

OK. I have it burned to a CD-R somewhere, but I'm sure I can dig it up.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: U2Joshua on April 08, 2017, 12:12:19 AM
Ditto!  Would love a copy of the original.  Thanks!
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on April 21, 2017, 11:16:18 PM
The version of Red Hill Mining Town (2017 Mix) streaming on U2.com is...

752ed0e6677cfbc684dcdd15e662658733a76508.mp3
256 kbps MP3
No embedded tags or cover art.

Probably a moot point since it's already available for download.  :P
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: enaul on May 06, 2017, 12:52:40 PM
Where can i find this one? I have a subscription.

The version of Red Hill Mining Town (2017 Mix) streaming on U2.com is...

752ed0e6677cfbc684dcdd15e662658733a76508.mp3
256 kbps MP3
No embedded tags or cover art.

Probably a moot point since it's already available for download.  :P
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on May 07, 2017, 10:08:31 AM
Where can i find this one? I have a subscription.

The version of Red Hill Mining Town (2017 Mix) streaming on U2.com is...

752ed0e6677cfbc684dcdd15e662658733a76508.mp3
256 kbps MP3
No embedded tags or cover art.

Probably a moot point since it's already available for download.  :P

Link is dead now. It only streamed for 24 hours starting April 21.

http://www.u2.com/news/title/red-hill-mining-town-2017-mix-streaming-now/news/ Ö
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on May 11, 2017, 02:07:33 PM
I couldn't help but chuckle at this bit from the latest U2.com email:
Quote
Download

Pre-ordered The Joshua Tree 30th Anniversary release on Deluxe or Super Deluxe? On Friday, 'I Still Havenít Found What Iím Looking For (Live at Madison Square Garden Choir Version)í will be available for you to download.

Otherwise known as "Rattle and Hum" track 6!
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: U2Joshua on May 11, 2017, 02:41:47 PM
I couldn't help but chuckle at this bit from the latest U2.com email:
Quote
Download

Pre-ordered The Joshua Tree 30th Anniversary release on Deluxe or Super Deluxe? On Friday, 'I Still Havenít Found What Iím Looking For (Live at Madison Square Garden Choir Version)í will be available for you to download.

Otherwise known as "Rattle and Hum" track 6!

Hah!  ;D
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on May 13, 2017, 02:20:51 PM
Link is dead now. It only streamed for 24 hours starting April 21.

Aww, nuts.  That explains why I haven't been able to find it.

Does anyone have an unaltered copy of the track to share?


I couldn't help but chuckle at this bit from the latest U2.com email:
Quote
Download

Pre-ordered The Joshua Tree 30th Anniversary release on Deluxe or Super Deluxe? On Friday, 'I Still Havenít Found What Iím Looking For (Live at Madison Square Garden Choir Version)í will be available for you to download.

Otherwise known as "Rattle and Hum" track 6!

That was exactly what I was thinking!  Of all the tracks to offer early...unbelievable!
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on May 16, 2017, 01:54:26 PM
Is this version of "I Still Haven't Found" still available on U2.Com anywhere?  Where did one go to find it? 
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: U2Joshua on May 16, 2017, 03:26:19 PM
Is this version of "I Still Haven't Found" still available on U2.Com anywhere?  Where did one go to find it?

iTunes, Qobuz (France) - lossless
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on May 16, 2017, 03:29:37 PM
Is this version of "I Still Haven't Found" still available on U2.Com anywhere?  Where did one go to find it?

I think it was only available if you actually purchased the physical set through U2.com. Maybe they emailed a link to people who bought it there?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: miryclay on May 16, 2017, 06:33:37 PM
Is this version of "I Still Haven't Found" still available on U2.Com anywhere?  Where did one go to find it?

https://u2.lnk.to/LiveChoir
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: MDuchek on May 22, 2017, 08:35:19 AM
But the track on R&H was very heavily edited, from what I recall, to the point that it differed substantially from the actual performance.  (Same with All Along the Watchtower).  Interested to see if that remains the case.

I couldn't help but chuckle at this bit from the latest U2.com email:
Quote
Download

Pre-ordered The Joshua Tree 30th Anniversary release on Deluxe or Super Deluxe? On Friday, 'I Still Havenít Found What Iím Looking For (Live at Madison Square Garden Choir Version)í will be available for you to download.

Otherwise known as "Rattle and Hum" track 6!
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on May 22, 2017, 02:00:38 PM
In case anyone is interested...this U2.com 'gift' version is the same track as the R&H album version, but it's cleaned up and has a different eq, i.e. more modern,  so it sounds way different. Anyone surprised?
Definitely needed for completists.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on May 22, 2017, 02:53:32 PM
In case anyone is interested...this U2.com 'gift' version is the same track as the R&H album version, but it's cleaned up and has a different eq, i.e. more modern,  so it sounds way different. Anyone surprised?
Definitely needed for completists.

I'm still confused as to where to get it on U2.com.  I followed the link above but found nothing.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on May 22, 2017, 04:02:02 PM
In case anyone is interested...this U2.com 'gift' version is the same track as the R&H album version, but it's cleaned up and has a different eq, i.e. more modern,  so it sounds way different. Anyone surprised?
Definitely needed for completists.

I'm still confused as to where to get it on U2.com.  I followed the link above but found nothing.

The link will only work if you purchased the set through U2.com. Otherwise it just directs to a page with different purchase options for the download (iTunes, amazon, etc.)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on May 22, 2017, 10:17:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZggv0UpgwI

About as good as it gets. Bono in a sling singing his guts out and some very talented singers and soloists. I love the scene in the classroom but why this didn't make the movie...even an 'outtake' up on youtube sounds pretty amazing.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on May 23, 2017, 09:22:12 AM
In case anyone is interested...this U2.com 'gift' version is the same track as the R&H album version, but it's cleaned up and has a different eq, i.e. more modern,  so it sounds way different. Anyone surprised?
Definitely needed for completists.



I'm still confused as to where to get it on U2.com.  I followed the link above but found nothing.

The link will only work if you purchased the set through U2.com. Otherwise it just directs to a page with different purchase options for the download (iTunes, amazon, etc.)

But I followed the link and can't find it either.  :)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on May 23, 2017, 09:25:39 AM
Just to be clear...

Did anyone actually manage to download this for free from U2.com because they had pre-ordered the album?  I can find the copies on Spotify, iTunes, Qobuz etc.  But wondering if a version of this was actually made available on U2.com as the email stated it would be?  I am only interested in specific information about U2.com.  :)

I contacted U2.com and they seemed to be surprised to hear about it and that to their knowledge there wasn't a download. 
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on May 23, 2017, 10:36:48 AM
Just to be clear...

Did anyone actually manage to download this for free from U2.com because they had pre-ordered the album?  I can find the copies on Spotify, iTunes, Qobuz etc.  But wondering if a version of this was actually made available on U2.com as the email stated it would be?  I am only interested in specific information about U2.com.  :)

I contacted U2.com and they seemed to be surprised to hear about it and that to their knowledge there wasn't a download.

I just forwarded you the email if you want to see it! Also here's a screen grab of the relevant section. (http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh564/don_morgan2/u2email_zps4bqrx3ec.jpg) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/don_morgan2/media/u2email_zps4bqrx3ec.jpg.html)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on May 23, 2017, 11:29:43 AM
yup.  I've seen the email.  I just haven't been able to find the file and I did pre-order, so I should be able to.  I pre-ordered both the Super Deluxe and Deluxe.  I spoke to the customer service team, and they were unaware that the email had been sent.  So they asked me to forward it to them.  They did not get back to me since that time.  So just wondering if anyone actually did find the file on the site?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: csmerria on May 24, 2017, 11:28:40 PM
I pre-ordered and had to contact support; they sent me a link that worked today. Took me to a personalized download page, like the RHMT download page. The original email from u2.com just sent me to the generic Joshua Tree 2017 page. If you're still waiting to hear back, check your spam folder - the reply was just from "Customer Support" (orderhelp at livenationmerchandise.com).
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: miryclay on May 25, 2017, 12:21:55 PM
I assumed that it would be inside the user profile that requires a login on the u2.com shop site. Did you try and clean out your cache or maybe try another browser?

Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: U2Joshua on May 25, 2017, 06:26:02 PM
I pre-ordered and had to contact support; they sent me a link that worked today. Took me to a personalized download page, like the RHMT download page. The original email from u2.com just sent me to the generic Joshua Tree 2017 page. If you're still waiting to hear back, check your spam folder - the reply was just from "Customer Support" (orderhelp at livenationmerchandise.com).

So, to ask Aaron's question, is it the same as the iTunes, Spotify and everywhere else version?

No special edit / fade-in or fade-out?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: csmerria on May 25, 2017, 11:32:06 PM
I pre-ordered and had to contact support; they sent me a link that worked today. Took me to a personalized download page, like the RHMT download page. The original email from u2.com just sent me to the generic Joshua Tree 2017 page. If you're still waiting to hear back, check your spam folder - the reply was just from "Customer Support" (orderhelp at livenationmerchandise.com).

So, to ask Aaron's question, is it the same as the iTunes, Spotify and everywhere else version?

No special edit / fade-in or fade-out?
I assume it's the same as everywhere else. I don't have other sources, so can't do a more formal compare, but it seemed the same as the version on spotify. While it's not tagged, the filename starts with a 16, so pretty confident it's just the standard track 16.

I did compare the RHMT file from the pre-order to the flac I have from 7digital as well as the file from u2.com, and they are all the same. The u2.com download was 256k and the pre-order is 320, but no fade or edit variances.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on May 29, 2017, 11:25:36 PM
What's interesting is that the U2.com download version seems like a totally unique remaster. Not only does Bono's voice sound different, but the first instance of 'But I still haven't found' at 0.49 you can clearly hear Edge singing harmony. You don't hear Edge on the album version or the MFiT version. Nice.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Aaron on May 30, 2017, 12:16:26 PM
What's interesting is that the U2.com download version seems like a totally unique remaster. Not only does Bono's voice sound different, but the first instance of 'But I still haven't found' at 0.49 you can clearly hear Edge singing harmony. You don't hear Edge on the album version or the MFiT version. Nice.

Are you comparing these to Rattle and Hum? 
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on May 30, 2017, 12:30:12 PM
What's interesting is that the U2.com download version seems like a totally unique remaster. Not only does Bono's voice sound different, but the first instance of 'But I still haven't found' at 0.49 you can clearly hear Edge singing harmony. You don't hear Edge on the album version or the MFiT version. Nice.

Are you comparing these to Rattle and Hum?

That's what I assumed. You can hear Edge harmonizing on the FLAC version I have from Qobuz, but not on R&H.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: slaneman on May 30, 2017, 01:51:41 PM
Yup. Comparing album version of R&H and the MFiT version of R&H album.
On neither can you hear Edge like you can on the Qobuz, which was the U2.com streaming version. I'm glad Brad hears that too.

So where did this version come from. Have they remastered the whole album?
It's not the version sent to iTunes, although that was supposed to be 'adjusted' to sound better. But on this MFiT version I can't hear Edge.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: miryclay on May 31, 2017, 01:14:57 PM
Yup. Comparing album version of R&H and the MFiT version of R&H album.
On neither can you hear Edge like you can on the Qobuz, which was the U2.com streaming version. I'm glad Brad hears that too.

So where did this version come from. Have they remastered the whole album?
It's not the version sent to iTunes, although that was supposed to be 'adjusted' to sound better. But on this MFiT version I can't hear Edge.

tell us MFit means.....
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on May 31, 2017, 03:05:10 PM
Yup. Comparing album version of R&H and the MFiT version of R&H album.
On neither can you hear Edge like you can on the Qobuz, which was the U2.com streaming version. I'm glad Brad hears that too.

So where did this version come from. Have they remastered the whole album?
It's not the version sent to iTunes, although that was supposed to be 'adjusted' to sound better. But on this MFiT version I can't hear Edge.

tell us MFit means.....

Mastered for iTunes
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: miryclay on May 31, 2017, 08:28:48 PM
Thanks...
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on June 01, 2017, 01:43:22 PM
RE: ISHFWILF, this is the same performance but clearly a totally different mix. For one thing, Bono messes up and comes in way early on the "I believe in the Kingdom come..." verse. That part was edited out of the R&H version. This one is overall much less polished and more live. All kinds of new sounds here, including Edge's vocals as others have mentioned.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: enaul on June 02, 2017, 12:32:51 PM
June 2, 2017 'One Tree Hill' (St Francis Hotel remix)
http://www.u2.com/news/title/released-today

Code: [Select]
File name : 0d8637b37b3877bd2b00cce91f122ba98724bac3.mp3
File size : 7.85 MB (8 238 061 bytes)
Duration : 4:17.399 (11 351 279 samples)
Sample rate : 44100 Hz
Channels : 2
Bitrate : 256 kbps
Codec : MP3
Codec profile : MP3 CBR
Encoding : lossy
Tool : Lavf54.29.104
Tag type : id3v2.4
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: u2expert on June 04, 2017, 09:51:47 PM
I just want to thank everyone who has contributed to this post over the 6 years.

Cheers,
u2expert
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on September 06, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
To add:
song: The Blackout
file: not downloadable, as far as I can tell
release date: 2017-08-30
video format: 240p, 360p, 480p, and 720p
audio format: 48000 Hz, mono, 128 kbps AAC
duration: 5:15
from: https://www.facebook.com/u2 (https://www.facebook.com/u2)
note: only streaming on Facebook - even the embedded video on U2.com is a link to the Facebook video
(https://scontent.fybz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21150416_10155989862411686_2580828935605239750_n.jpg?oh=8545f25363a542ad4255f440a567e205&oe=5A57BE35)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on September 06, 2017, 12:02:13 PM
To add:
song: You're The Best Thing About Me [Album Version]
file: U2-Youre-The-Best-Thing-About-Me-Album-Version.mp3
release date: 2017-09-06
format: MP3 192Kbps, 44100 Hz
duration: 3:46
from: playiga.com/track/u2-youre-the-best-thing-about-me-2/ (http://playiga.com/track/u2-youre-the-best-thing-about-me-2/)
note: widely available on streaming services and YouTube, but included here as it is downloadable from an official site
(http://playiga.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/YTBTAM-SINGLE-COVER.jpg)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on September 06, 2017, 12:04:18 PM
To add:
song: You're The Best Thing About Me [Sci-Fi Soul Mix]
file: U2-Youre-The-Best-Thing-About-Me-Sci-Fi-Soul-Mix.mp3
release date: 2017-09-06
format: MP3 192Kbps, 44100 Hz
duration: 3:54
from: playiga.com/track/u2-youre-the-best-thing-about-me-2/ (http://playiga.com/track/u2-youre-the-best-thing-about-me-2/)
note: as of today, this is the only site to stream and download this mix
(http://playiga.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/YTBTAM-SINGLE-COVER.jpg)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: dagobah on September 06, 2017, 08:00:01 PM
To add:
file: U2-Youre-The-Best-Thing-About-Me-Sci-Fi-Soul-Mix.mp3

from: playiga.com/track/u2-youre-the-best-thing-about-me-2/ (http://playiga.com/track/u2-youre-the-best-thing-about-me-2/)
note: as of today, this is the only site to stream and download this mix
OK, so I clicked on that link.  I can listen to the Sci-Fi Soul Mix, but . . . . . how do I download it?
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: morgan1098 on September 07, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
To add:
file: U2-Youre-The-Best-Thing-About-Me-Sci-Fi-Soul-Mix.mp3

from: playiga.com/track/u2-youre-the-best-thing-about-me-2/ (http://playiga.com/track/u2-youre-the-best-thing-about-me-2/)
note: as of today, this is the only site to stream and download this mix
OK, so I clicked on that link.  I can listen to the Sci-Fi Soul Mix, but . . . . . how do I download it?

Dagobah, if you're using Google Chrome see this thread: http://u2wanderer.org/rtss/index.php?topic=1058.msg6397#msg6397
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: dagobah on September 08, 2017, 12:52:12 AM
Dagobah, if you're using Google Chrome see this thread: http://u2wanderer.org/rtss/index.php?topic=1058.msg6397#msg6397
Thanks for your suggestion.  George also helped me with this yesterday.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on September 08, 2017, 04:19:07 PM
To add:
song: The Blackout
file: not downloadable, as far as I can tell
release date: 2017-08-30
video format: 240p, 360p, 480p, and 720p
audio format: ???
duration: 5:15
from: https://www.facebook.com/u2 (https://www.facebook.com/u2)
note: only streaming on Facebook - even the embedded video on U2.com is a link to the Facebook video
(https://scontent.fybz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21150416_10155989862411686_2580828935605239750_n.jpg?oh=8545f25363a542ad4255f440a567e205&oe=5A57BE35)

Audio on this is 64 kbps mono AAC. Really hoping for a version with better audio quality somewhere.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on September 16, 2017, 08:45:35 AM
To add:
song: The Blackout
file: not downloadable, as far as I can tell
release date: 2017-08-30
video format: 240p, 360p, 480p, and 720p
audio format: ???
duration: 5:15
from: https://www.facebook.com/u2 (https://www.facebook.com/u2)
note: only streaming on Facebook - even the embedded video on U2.com is a link to the Facebook video
(https://scontent.fybz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21150416_10155989862411686_2580828935605239750_n.jpg?oh=8545f25363a542ad4255f440a567e205&oe=5A57BE35)

Audio on this is 64 kbps mono AAC. Really hoping for a version with better audio quality somewhere.

I'm seeing 128 kbps mono AAC...
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on September 16, 2017, 11:59:11 AM
Seeing it where? I redownloaded a few days ago and 64 is still the only audio option.
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: Brad on September 16, 2017, 12:17:03 PM
Just checked again. Still showing just the one audio stream.

(https://i.imgur.com/VHigZGt.png)
Title: Re: u2.com streaming unreleased or rare songs
Post by: George on September 20, 2017, 10:13:31 AM
Looking at my file information, I have two captures - one of 60kbps and another of 128kbps.  Looking at the spectral signatures, they both have the same cutoffs, but cutoffs that are consistent with 128, not 60. So that's strange, and seemingly impossible.  Unfortunately, I can't recall how I went about getting these, so I'll defer to you and 60kbps unless I figure out anything else.