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Title: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on November 20, 2018, 10:54:56 PM
The tour was niether Innocent or Experienced.
Please discuss.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: u2hmtmkmkm on November 21, 2018, 03:29:41 AM
Two tours but only a double CD, I have the impression this is going to be like Hasta La Vista x2, one show on CD, the other on the second, so they won't be complete shows. Would love a complete show but otherwise I'm excited for it.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: Aaron on November 21, 2018, 06:41:07 AM
Two tours but only a double CD, I have the impression this is going to be like Hasta La Vista x2, one show on CD, the other on the second, so they won't be complete shows. Would love a complete show but otherwise I'm excited for it.

There’s a number of songs that repeated between both tours. Beautiful Day, Pride, Even Better Than the Real Thing, Vertigo, City of Blinding Lights, One, Elevation.

They could steer clear of The Joshua Tree stuff if the 2017 DVD is coming around the same time. So they have some options for what to cut. I think it will be more like U22 or From the Ground Up where it will be a mix of stuff and may not necessarily follow the flow of a concert...
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on November 21, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
Strangely I listened to both Slane and Sydney Fan club gifts this week before this was announced for the first time in a long time.
360 (U22) had so many songs that they had to chop some off and making a setlist replica was difficult. Experience had a limited amount of songs so a standard edition would be easy to create. 
Personally, I would like a 3 or 4 CD edition with a heavy emphasis on SOI and SOE songs. I hope they make this gift EPIC. It seems like a quick turnaround for a book though. I have printing times concerns. This is U2.com remember.

Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: dagobah on November 21, 2018, 09:17:43 AM
I'm only interested in the music.  I don't care about the book.  So if anyone wants my book, I'll mail it to you as long as you pay the shipping.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: George on November 21, 2018, 01:26:26 PM
Hopefully like with U22 and From The Ground Up, additional tracks that didn't make the cut for either CD will be downloadable.

I like this gift idea, but have trouble seeing how it fits well on just two CDs, especially when the 360 tour got three CDs worth of material, plus downloads, and still had several missing tracks.  I know that there was a lot less variation with these two tours within each tour, but collectively, I'm guessing, the variation is about the same as 360?
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on November 21, 2018, 02:37:47 PM
Hopefully like with U22 and From The Ground Up, additional tracks that didn't make the cut for either CD will be downloadable.

I like this gift idea, but have trouble seeing how it fits well on just two CDs, especially when the 360 tour got three CDs worth of material, plus downloads, and still had several missing tracks.  I know that there was a lot less variation with these two tours within each tour, but collectively, I'm guessing, the variation is about the same as 360?

EI 41 songs
JT17 31 songs
IE 54 songs
360 62 songs

All of these are full songs, not snippets.*u2gigs
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: George on November 21, 2018, 04:58:01 PM
Hopefully like with U22 and From The Ground Up, additional tracks that didn't make the cut for either CD will be downloadable.

I like this gift idea, but have trouble seeing how it fits well on just two CDs, especially when the 360 tour got three CDs worth of material, plus downloads, and still had several missing tracks.  I know that there was a lot less variation with these two tours within each tour, but collectively, I'm guessing, the variation is about the same as 360?

EI 41 songs
JT17 31 songs
IE 54 songs
360 62 songs

All of these are full songs, not snippets.*u2gigs

Hmm.  But how many different songs were played in the combined IE & EI shows?  I could look it up, but it's dinner time...
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on November 21, 2018, 07:55:07 PM
Here is my subscription fantasy selection. I'm using the Hasta! model of cutting down a tour to 14 tracks.

CD1

The Miracle (of Joey Ramone)
Iris (Hold Me Close)
Cedarwood Road
Song For Someone
Raised By Wolves
Invisible
October
Bullet the Blue Sky
Zooropa
Volcano
The Crystal Ballroom
Mother And Child Reunion
Ordinary Love
The Troubles

CD2

Love Is All We Have Left
The Blackout
Lights Of Home
Red Flag Day
Dirty Day
Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
Acrobat
You're The Best Thing About Me
Staring at the Sun
Summer Of Love
American Soul
Get Out Of Your Own Way
Love Is Bigger Than Anything in Its Way
13 (There Is A Light)
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: morgan1098 on November 22, 2018, 02:14:49 AM
Am I the only one overjoyed that we're getting CDs again??? If this is a "mixed concert" affair like U22, then it's a win in my book. U22 and From the Ground Up were the best fan club gifts in the history of the club, so if this follows the same format I'm happy.

I mean, we could have gotten something like, "Coming soon on limited edition colored vinyl, two songs from I+E on Side A and two songs from E+I on Side B." I'm super relieved and also surprised we're not getting something like that.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: Aaron on November 22, 2018, 09:01:51 AM
Am I the only one overjoyed that we're getting CDs again??? If this is a "mixed concert" affair like U22, then it's a win in my book. U22 and From the Ground Up were the best fan club gifts in the history of the club, so if this follows the same format I'm happy.

I mean, we could have gotten something like, "Coming soon on limited edition colored vinyl, two songs from I+E on Side A and two songs from E+I on Side B." I'm super relieved and also surprised we're not getting something like that.

I'm overjoyed as well.  Vinyl looks great, but it's a pain to do anything with.  I am far more likely to pull out a CD to listen to casually, and it's far easier to scan for the discography LOL!!

We did that survey about the fan club gifts.  40% of fans that answered don't even have a record player.  Only 10% don't have a way to play CDs.  So from a possible use perspective the CDs probably make more sense among the fan base that answered.

I am interested in what they will do for a book.  If it will be more like the U22 book with a handful of images in a more magazine style appearance, or if they are actually planning on doing something more comprehensive like they did with the From the Ground Up book...
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: George on November 22, 2018, 09:28:16 AM
Am I the only one overjoyed that we're getting CDs again??? If this is a "mixed concert" affair like U22, then it's a win in my book. U22 and From the Ground Up were the best fan club gifts in the history of the club, so if this follows the same format I'm happy.

I mean, we could have gotten something like, "Coming soon on limited edition colored vinyl, two songs from I+E on Side A and two songs from E+I on Side B." I'm super relieved and also surprised we're not getting something like that.

Unique audio, on CD.  That's what I want and that's what's coming, so I'm certainly happy!  I think that the club's best work by far was done on U22 and From The Ground Up, so if it's anything like that, I'll be very happy.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on November 22, 2018, 09:59:35 AM
Am I the only one overjoyed that we're getting CDs again??? If this is a "mixed concert" affair like U22, then it's a win in my book. U22 and From the Ground Up were the best fan club gifts in the history of the club, so if this follows the same format I'm happy.

I mean, we could have gotten something like, "Coming soon on limited edition colored vinyl, two songs from I+E on Side A and two songs from E+I on Side B." I'm super relieved and also surprised we're not getting something like that.

Unique audio, on CD.  That's what I want and that's what's coming, so I'm certainly happy!  I think that the club's best work by far was done on U22 and From The Ground Up, so if it's anything like that, I'll be very happy.

FTGU was really well done. Not only was it official but essentially closed the door on any 360 era books written by third parties. I actual expect this to be epic as well but am worried about time constraints on the CDs. 
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on November 22, 2018, 10:41:34 AM
Here is a list of songs that were played live in 15+18 that have not been released live in any capacity. Feel free to ad some more.

Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses
Ordinary Love
California (There Is No End To Love)
The Troubles
Lucifer's Hands
The Crystal Ballroom
Volcano
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: PatrickM on November 22, 2018, 08:59:43 PM
Just for fun, I decided to give it a try on the tracklisting. I tried to give a Innocence/Experience concert flow on the list.

They have revealed six tracks on the news article: The Miracle of Joey Ramone, Every Breaking Wave, Song for Someone, The Blackout, Get Out of Your Own Way and 13 (There is a Light). Since they have played I Will Follow, Beautiful Day, Pride and Vertigo in every concert of the two tours, I have also included those.

CD1: The Miracle of Joey Ramone | The Electric Co. | Vertigo | I Will Follow | Beautiful Day | The Ocean | Iris | Cedarwood Road | Song for Someone | Sunday Bloody Sunday | Raised by Wolves | Until the End of the World

CD2: The Blackout | Lights of Home | Elevation | Even Better... | Acrobat | You're the Best Thing | Every Breaking Wave | Pride | Get Out of Your Own Way | City of Blinding Lights | One | Love is Bigger... | 13 (There is a Light)

25 tracks, with 12 songs from SOI/SOE.

Hope they don't go for the easy route and pick audio from Paris'15 and Berlin'18 only.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: George on November 23, 2018, 11:30:59 AM
Hope they don't go for the easy route and pick audio from Paris'15 and Berlin'18 only.

That would certainly be a disappointment.  I'd like to see a mix of as many different shows as possible.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on November 25, 2018, 08:04:19 AM
This is a great gift but I would eventually like a studio rarities blowout like M,R,RM.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on January 16, 2019, 07:06:08 PM
Voting now live on U2.com
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: morgan1098 on January 18, 2019, 04:04:19 PM
People seem to be in an uproar over "Little Things" being up for vote on U2.com, but I think it's great. Yes, it's not from the 2015 or 2018 tours, but it makes sense to tag it on there since the focus clearly seems to be on songs from SOI and SOE. Just call it a "bonus track from JT30" and call it good. What's the big deal?  :)
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on February 27, 2019, 07:15:57 AM
Little Things sounds great!
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: George on February 27, 2019, 09:47:08 AM
yes, Little Things is really good!  I'm surprised the Song For Someone got voted in over The Troubles.  The Troubles, if I remember correctly, was sitting second for a while and I just figured that it would be the second track.  I don't know why people would prefer to hear an already available song instead of one they've never heard.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: Anam on February 27, 2019, 03:07:44 PM
There are those who would draw a line between the 'fan' vote and the 'fanatic' vote. They are both good songs and while I wouldn't have chosen Song for Someone, I think it's great that it has such popular support. Great album track, great live track and a proper video with Woody off Cheers. The Troubles on the other hand never really found its feet live, imho.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on February 27, 2019, 08:51:13 PM
Larry's drumming on The Troubles live was one of my favorite live U2 moments.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: Aaron on May 28, 2019, 01:45:46 PM
Larry's drumming on The Troubles live was one of my favorite live U2 moments.

More tracks revealed and I'm even more sure now that it's going to be Songs of Innocence songs and Songs of Experience songs.

My guess?

Disc One:
The Miracle of Joey Ramone
California (There is No End to Love)
Iris (Hold Me Close)
Cedarwood Road
Song for Someone
Raised by Wolves
Invisible
Volcano
Every Breaking Wave
The Troubles
Bonus: Lucifer's Hands
Bonus: The Crystal Ballroom
---
12 tracks

Disc Two:
Love is All We Have Left
The Blackout
Lights of Home
Red Flag Day
The Showman (Snippet) / You're the Best Thing
Summer of Love
Get Out of Your Own Way
American Soul
Landlady
Love is Bigger Than Anything in its Way
13 (There is A Light)
Bonus: The Little Things that Give You Away
Bonus: Ordinary Love
---
13 tracks
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: George on May 28, 2019, 03:17:16 PM
Larry's drumming on The Troubles live was one of my favorite live U2 moments.

More tracks revealed and I'm even more sure now that it's going to be Songs of Innocence songs and Songs of Experience songs.

My guess?

Disc One:
The Miracle of Joey Ramone
California (There is No End to Love)
Iris (Hold Me Close)
Cedarwood Road
Song for Someone
Raised by Wolves
Invisible
Volcano
Every Breaking Wave
The Troubles
Bonus: Lucifer's Hands
Bonus: The Crystal Ballroom
---
12 tracks

Disc Two:
Love is All We Have Left
The Blackout
Lights of Home
Red Flag Day
The Showman (Snippet) / You're the Best Thing
Summer of Love
Get Out of Your Own Way
American Soul
Landlady
Love is Bigger Than Anything in its Way
13 (There is A Light)
Bonus: The Little Things that Give You Away
Bonus: Ordinary Love
---
13 tracks

I would be very pleased with this.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: Aaron on May 29, 2019, 07:37:39 AM
Larry's drumming on The Troubles live was one of my favorite live U2 moments.

More tracks revealed and I'm even more sure now that it's going to be Songs of Innocence songs and Songs of Experience songs.

My guess?

Disc One:
The Miracle of Joey Ramone
California (There is No End to Love)
Iris (Hold Me Close)
Cedarwood Road
Song for Someone
Raised by Wolves
Invisible
Volcano
Every Breaking Wave
The Troubles
Bonus: Lucifer's Hands
Bonus: The Crystal Ballroom
---
12 tracks

Disc Two:
Love is All We Have Left
The Blackout
Lights of Home
Red Flag Day
The Showman (Snippet) / You're the Best Thing
Summer of Love
Get Out of Your Own Way
American Soul
Landlady
Love is Bigger Than Anything in its Way
13 (There is A Light)
Bonus: The Little Things that Give You Away
Bonus: Ordinary Love
---
13 tracks

I would be very pleased with this.

I would too. I suspect the bonus tracks are a long shot, especially Lucifer's Hands as it wasn't played much and The Crystal Ballroom that had a really extended Stones snippet that would need clearance...Invisible / Ordinary Love make sense to me, they really fit into the albums.  And we know The Little Things is on there :)
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on May 29, 2019, 03:01:42 PM
I wouldn't mind this yet it seems to be by the numbers. My hope would U2 would be a little more creative. I personally doubt that the rare tracks Lucifer, CB are going to get much luv.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: miryclay on May 29, 2019, 03:03:51 PM
 Your list adheres to the time honored approach of adding a rando bonus track for no apparent reason.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: dagobah on June 20, 2019, 02:19:20 AM
I wonder if the 2 CDs (U2 Live Songs of iNNOCENCE + eXPERIENCE) will arrive in 2019.  I currently have no subscription so I expect to start a new subscription in the next few months.  I haven't done it yet because I just don't like paying for something and then having the shipment pending for months or even a year.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: morgan1098 on July 05, 2019, 06:00:11 PM
LOL, U2.com still says the full track list will be published in "early 2019" and the set will ship in "spring 2019." Ok then. By Fan Club standards they're right on schedule.
Title: Re: 2019 Subscription: INNOCENCE + EXPERIENCE LIVE, 2015 & 2018
Post by: Aaron on July 09, 2019, 11:57:07 AM
LOL, U2.com still says the full track list will be published in "early 2019" and the set will ship in "spring 2019." Ok then. By Fan Club standards they're right on schedule.

It's still Winter in Australia. :)