u2songs.com: Running to Stand Still
Site Related => Discography & Releases => Topic started by: Brad on March 31, 2015, 02:57:48 PM
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I can't say that I'm thrilled about Song for Someone being the next single, whatever constitutes a single release these days. I assume it must be since U2.com is asking fans to upload cover versions, and it has supposedly gone out to radio in the US. Anyway, I can't stand to have anything in iTunes without cover art, so I threw something together for SFS.
I assumed everyone would know that this cover I posted on Twitter was a joke, but it seems some people actually took it seriously. I threw this together in five minutes.
(http://u2wanderer.org/rtss/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1064.0;attach=235;image)
I actually spent a little more time on this one and tried to make it look like the prior two single releases. Maybe even a little too derivative, but oh well. I'm going with this one in iTunes unless U2 puts out some official cover art.
(http://u2wanderer.org/rtss/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1064.0;attach=237;image)
Or I suppose I could just use this from U2.com.
(http://u2wanderer.org/rtss/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1064.0;attach=239;image)
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Playing around with the grain feature in Photoshop a little more. I think this second result is closer to what I was shooting for.
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u584/U2Wanderer/u2sfs7_zpsnx3dmqzz.png)
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The email from U2.com promoting the new Woody Harrelson-starring video says this song is "the third single from the album and released on Monday." I wonder if there will actually be a separate download with artwork from iTunes, amazon,etc? Still hard to figure out what constitutes a "release" these days.
EDIT: Also, the mix of the song is decidedly different. Maybe it's the "single version"? Or maybe they just tweaked it to fill more of the 8-minute running time of the video. But there are definitely new keyboard sounds and different backing vox, etc.
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So yeah, there's no unique digital release as far as I can tell. Nothing on iTunes or amazon.com. There's this UK promo CD, which uses the album cover as artwork.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/U2-Song-for-someone-1-Track-EU-Promo-CD-/291512592560?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43df8128b0
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Brad,
Your PS skills are impressive. But if a band release an a major album (AB) with an 'extra member' anything is possible right?
miryclay
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I have to wonder if that EU promo is legit. The track length is 3:47, so even if it's real that may just be the album version. I'm hoping that they will make the video mix available for download on U2.com.
Will keep my eyes open for more promos, though.
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I have to wonder if that EU promo is legit. The track length is 3:47, so even if it's real that may just be the album version. I'm hoping that they will make the video mix available for download on U2.com.
Will keep my eyes open for more promos, though.
I've been told those EU promos are probably not legit by a friend who was able to confirm for me that the UK promo of EBW, and the French promos of Joey Ramone and EBW are quite legit. That hasn't been confirmed though.
But if you look at them there's lots of reason to doubt them.
1. CDR, with many of them misspelling the rights society (STEMRA spelt STERMA) - after this spelling error was pointed out the same promos started showing up again with the corrected spelling. Record labels don't correct things...
2. Shoddy punch out paper for the covers - looks like a do it yourself kit.
3. So far nothing but album versions.
4. Joey Ramone / Invisible showed up first. Then EBW showed up with the album cover with the name of the album printed into the cover...when the cover art came out for that single it quickly replaced that promo.
5. Nothing but album mixes. Including EBW, which was different on the UK promo which i'm told was legit.
6. After all of the above came out suddenly out came an Ordinary Love promo? Almost a year after the song was out? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
7. Instead of the typical single slimline jewel case, these are coming in the type you typically get with blank CDRS.
8. If you look on eBay almost all of these came from the same two sellers in the UK initially. They only show up from other sellers after a while of being sold by the same two initial sellers (both based in the UK btw)
Perhaps there are legitimate copies out there that someone has been copying to make these others from?
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As for the legitimacy of this promo, based on what the seller has sold in the past, I'd guess that it's a fake. Here's the link to his recent sales: http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=291516322710&LH_Complete=1&_ssn=chimmichanga&_pgn=2&_skc=50&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=291516322710&LH_Complete=1&_ssn=chimmichanga&_pgn=2&_skc=50&rt=nc).
Ridiculously suspiciously, all of the various "promos" being sold look very similar.
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This is the other seller of these that seems to always have a bunch:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/toxic_rocket/m.html?_nkw&_armrs=1&_ipg&_from&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684
Also interesting to note...the third or fourth EBW one actually had a UPC number on it but not the bar code itself...odd.
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I adore this band like no other but not an album has gone by in decades where I haven't wanted to smack whoever picks U2's singles. Please tell me what kind of world is it where SFS is selected for radio play over "Volcano" (and on the heels over the album's other slow ballad, to boot!)?!
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I agree that Vocano would have made a much, much better summer single, also especially on the heels of Every Breaking Wave.
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If I had to choose a summer single, it would be a radio edit of California without the Santa Barbaras.
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A bit of artwork on Twitter from Interscope. Interesting.
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I can confirm you all CD promo sold by "chimmichanga" (or his other username "toxic_rocket") are made by the same guy.
ALL FAKES CD-R
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Looks like this is the artwork for the single:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-whLUTMdEby8/VaSH4dB2AxI/AAAAAAAAGfw/RPQEdBurIMM/s1600/sfs.jpg)
I haven't been able to find a high-quality image, but this seems to at least prove that it exists:
(http://musicatotal.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/u2-740x440.jpg)
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Curse you, watermark.
(http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/72116ad4jw1eu5itfax4hj20iw0iw770.jpg)
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ENJOY !
(http://i.imgur.com/TpQozJy.jpg)
;)
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Thanks y531ly5!
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That's cool artwork... but for what? According to U2.com, the "single" was "released" seven days ago. Hmmm. Nothing in iTunes or amazon yet.
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There was artwork for Joey Ramone, and Every Breaking Wave too but no commercial single. And most of the promos were delivered electronically.
What I'd love for a fan club gift? Four singles, one for each release. I'd prefer CD. Put 4-5 songs on each one. Just use some live tracks if there is no B-Sides as such to drag up. :)
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(http://u2wanderer.org/rtss/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1064.0;attach=245;image)
(http://u2wanderer.org/rtss/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1064.0;attach=247;image)
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!!!!! Radio Mix !!!!! I wonder if this is similar to the video version? Dang.
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Is that Ali, Bono's wife?
Do we know how different this Radio Mix is from the album version?
Do we know if this Radio Mix will be available for purchase on the iTunes Store?
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Or avaible for subscriber on U2.com
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Or avaible for subscriber on U2.com
Not as of right now.
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So, this is interesting: http://themusics.co/promo-only/promo-only-modern-rock-radio-06-june-2015/
The .mp3 of "SFS (Radio Mix)" here, when uploaded to iTunes Match, does not find a "Match" - meaning, theoretically, this is a different track than the album version. I only listened to it once, through my laptop speakers, and didn't immediately notice any difference.
On the July 13th episode of the Hamish and Andy Show, http://www.hamishandandy.com/listen/2/, Bono suggests that the new (radio?) mix of "SFS" is virtually unchanged, despite The Edge taking great pride in the "new" mix... There is plenty of laughter to accompany this exchange.
UPDATE: After several side-by-side listens through of the album version and the "Radio Mix" in the link above, I think I detect everso subtle distinctions in The Edge's background vocals - really, a volume discrepancy, only. At 2:18 - 2:19, The Edge's line, "...and there is a light..." is slightly louder and more pronounced on the Radio Mix than on the album version. This isn't the only (minor) difference, but it's the most convincing.
What do you think?
(apologies if linking above violates any rules - Moderator(s), please feel free to remove.)
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That MP3 is definitely mixed hotter (more dynamic range compression) than the album version. You can tell by comparing the waveforms. I'll post some pics in a bit. The album version is pretty quiet, so it makes sense to compress it a bit for radio, where most singles are mixed pretty hot.
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Is that Ali, Bono's wife?
Do we know how different this Radio Mix is from the album version?
Do we know if this Radio Mix will be available for purchase on the iTunes Store?
That is indeed Ali, taken from this photo:
(http://www.u2exit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/st_alihewson111.jpg)
I doubt that this radio mix will ever end up on iTunes. Maybe as a subscriber download, but it's pretty similar to the album version.
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Here I think it's pretty clear that the radio mix is hotter...
Radio Mix
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u584/U2Wanderer/Radio-Mix_zpsbwbm3jnl.png)
Album Version
(http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u584/U2Wanderer/ALbum-Version_zpsuh0n6teu.png)
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After several side-by-side listens through of the album version and the "Radio Mix" in the link above, I think I detect everso subtle distinctions in The Edge's background vocals - really, a volume discrepancy, only. At 2:18 - 2:19, The Edge's line, "...and there is a light..." is slightly louder and more pronounced on the Radio Mix than on the album version. This isn't the only (minor) difference, but it's the most convincing.
Definitely agree with this. Edge's line, "and there is a world" is definitely more audible in the radio mix.
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After several side-by-side listens through of the album version and the "Radio Mix" in the link above, I think I detect everso subtle distinctions in The Edge's background vocals - really, a volume discrepancy, only. At 2:18 - 2:19, The Edge's line, "...and there is a light..." is slightly louder and more pronounced on the Radio Mix than on the album version. This isn't the only (minor) difference, but it's the most convincing.
Definitely agree with this. Edge's line, "and there is a world" is definitely more audible in the radio mix.
Sweet! I feel legitimized :-) My analysis was done just laying on the couch, listening through my iPhone with my Bose® QC15s!
Thanks for doing the lab analysis to substantiate the suspicion 8)
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After several side-by-side listens through of the album version and the "Radio Mix" in the link above, I think I detect everso subtle distinctions in The Edge's background vocals - really, a volume discrepancy, only. At 2:18 - 2:19, The Edge's line, "...and there is a light..." is slightly louder and more pronounced on the Radio Mix than on the album version. This isn't the only (minor) difference, but it's the most convincing.
Definitely agree with this. Edge's line, "and there is a world" is definitely more audible in the radio mix.
Sweet! I feel legitimized :-) My analysis was done just laying on the couch, listening through my iPhone with my Bose® QC15s!
Thanks for doing the lab analysis to substantiate the suspicion 8)
I would have acknowledged you in the Twitter post, but I ran out of characters. ;)
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After several side-by-side listens through of the album version and the "Radio Mix" in the link above, I think I detect everso subtle distinctions in The Edge's background vocals - really, a volume discrepancy, only. At 2:18 - 2:19, The Edge's line, "...and there is a light..." is slightly louder and more pronounced on the Radio Mix than on the album version. This isn't the only (minor) difference, but it's the most convincing.
Definitely agree with this. Edge's line, "and there is a world" is definitely more audible in the radio mix.
Haha... thanks. The forum is fame enough!
Sweet! I feel legitimized :-) My analysis was done just laying on the couch, listening through my iPhone with my Bose® QC15s!
Thanks for doing the lab analysis to substantiate the suspicion 8)
I would have acknowledged you in the Twitter post, but I ran out of characters. ;)
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U2Joshua and Brad
thanks for the quick replies . . . . . I really appreciate it.
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Anyone have a link for this new mix?
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Anyone have a link for this new mix?
http://themusics.co/promo-only/promo-only-modern-rock-radio-06-june-2015/
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Thanks Joshua!
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So, this is interesting: http://themusics.co/promo-only/promo-only-modern-rock-radio-06-june-2015/
The .mp3 of "SFS (Radio Mix)" here, when uploaded to iTunes Match, does not find a "Match" - meaning, theoretically, this is a different track than the album version. I only listened to it once, through my laptop speakers, and didn't immediately notice any difference.
On the July 13th episode of the Hamish and Andy Show, http://www.hamishandandy.com/listen/2/, Bono suggests that the new (radio?) mix of "SFS" is virtually unchanged, despite The Edge taking great pride in the "new" mix... There is plenty of laughter to accompany this exchange.
UPDATE: After several side-by-side listens through of the album version and the "Radio Mix" in the link above, I think I detect everso subtle distinctions in The Edge's background vocals - really, a volume discrepancy, only. At 2:18 - 2:19, The Edge's line, "...and there is a light..." is slightly louder and more pronounced on the Radio Mix than on the album version. This isn't the only (minor) difference, but it's the most convincing.
What do you think?
(apologies if linking above violates any rules - Moderator(s), please feel free to remove.)
Edge's vox are louder in places, for sure, but they are also much quieter when Bono sings "I was told that I would feel nothing the first time" around the :42 mark. Edge's harmonies are much more obvious on the album version than the radio mix.
The version on the video is definitely different. But this radio mix is not what is on the video, it's just volume-adjusted in places, as others have said.
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Thanks to U2Joshua for that link and to Brad for the audio examination. After the usual picky and rather ridiculous listening I did over and over I agree with Morgan there are 3 different versions of SFS, or 4 if you toss in the live Red Nose version.
The video version sounds like the album version to me except they lengthened that opening synth tone.
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Pretty sure the promo CD is genuine. It's the same mix as the Radio Mix MP3, but the fade is slightly longer. Also had a look at the spectograms. The CD looks lossless and the MP3 does not.
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Pretty sure the promo CD is genuine. It's the same mix as the Radio Mix MP3, but the fade is slightly longer. Also had a look at the spectograms. The CD looks lossless and the MP3 does not.
Where'd you find the cd (lossless)? I must have it :-p
thanks,
josh
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eBay. I was lucky to snag one relatively cheaply because the auction prices have been pretty steep. Will probably come down as more copies hit the collectors' market.
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Brad, nice article on the current status of 'single' releases. ;)
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Thanks. Honestly, it practically write itself. :)