u2songs.com: Running to Stand Still
Site Related => Discography & Releases => Topic started by: Brad on February 18, 2010, 11:20:30 PM
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OK, so I'm semi-obsessed with trying to figure out which CD versions of Under A Blood Red Sky contain the snippet of Send In The Clowns. I'm pretty sure than no North American releases have it, even the early digipack version pressed in Japan. It seems that the original UK pressing does have the snippet, but repressings without it have the same catalog number. I have also heard that other early European pressings have it? I had thought that only the first Australian pressing on the Festival label had the snippet, but I just ran across this eBay auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130366069322&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) which claims that the second Aussie pressing on Polydor also has it.
If anyone has an easy answer to this, please let me know. Otherwise, I would really appreciate it if everyone could post the running time of track 6 (Electric Co.), country of origin, label, catalog number, UPC, and matrix info for their copy of UABRS. Maybe we can figure this out.
I'll start.
5:23; Australia; Festival; D 19177; none; MADE BY DISCTRONICS B **D19177** #02
4:57; Australia; Island/Polygram; 818 008-2; 9399081800823; 8180082 #02 MADE BY SSD.
4:58; USA; Island; A2-90127; 075679012722; DIDX-953 3
Thanks all.
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I went through the same phase a few years back. my copies of UABRS will be listed a bit later...
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I have a German copy that has the Send in the Clowns snippet. I'll try to remember to bring it in an post the info tomorrow...
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Here's the info from my German copy:
5:23; Germany; Island/BMG; CID113; 4007196105591; SONOPRESS 610 559 A
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Thanks. :D
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4.58; England; Island Records LTD; CID 113 (90127-2); Nimbus England; no bare code; :)
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4:57, France, Island Records (Island Masters Series), IMCD 248 / 818 008-2; 042281 800825, 818 008_2 00A L7 PMDC FRANCE, no snippet
4:58, USA, Island Records (Columbia House), A2 90127 (on spine) / DIDY 000953(on CD), 0 7567-90127-2 2, DIDX-953 3 *** *****, no snip
4:57, Canada, Island Records (Columbia House), CCIDM-113 - 543546T, 0 6043-90113-2 9, #921021FF CIDM-113 MFG BY CINRAM, no snip
5:23, UK, Island Records, CID 113, 4 007196 105591, CID 113 / 610 559 C, snippet
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::: Bono's addiction is driving us crazy: :P
we should create a section named Snippetgraphy
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That is a great suggestion Santiago. I would add an O to make it snippetOgraphy.
I heard this song on the radio today. It is probably one of U2s top three snippets in manner of sheer awesomeness.
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5:23, Germany, Island Records, 610 559 CID113 (on spine), 4 007196 105591 (UPC), white back insert, snippet included.
Matrix: SONOPRESS CID 113 / 610 559 D
Catalog number on disc: Listed in two rows: 610 559 CID 113
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I just received this today:
5:23; Australia; Festival; D 19177; none; MADE BY DISCTRONICS B **D19177** #02
Now I do know that Brad already mentioned this at the start of this thread, but I just want to say now that I have it.
And for just $3.95 AUD off eBay! ;D ;D ;D
It's definitely one of my prouder eBay purchases.
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Now to blow your minds. Or maybe not. You'll just look at me and say i'm nuts.
Differences in "Under a Blood Red Sky":
I Will Follow: On most versions you can hear Bono say "one more" at the end of the song. On early Australian pressings this has been moved to the start of "Party Girl". On the 2008 remaster this has been edited out completely. On most US pressings the track ends immediately after this "one more" however in Canada, UK, Germany etc the track continues for another 5s of crowd noise before ending after "one more" is heard. The Australian version ends before the "one more".
Party Girl: On most versions there is no talk at the beginning, and "One More" was heard at the end of "I Will Follow". In Australia, the "one more" is heard at the start of the track. On most versions the song does not fade out at the end. However in the US, and in the Island Masters pressings in Europe and elsewhere the song fades out. Those copies without the fade have approximately 15s of crowd noise at the end. Those with the fade end after about 20s of crowd noise into a fade. The remastered version in 2008 does not fade out.
Sunday Bloody Sunday: Fades in on US and Island Masters pressings. It is 10s until Bono speaks on these recordings. On those where there is no fade (rest of world) Bono starts to speak immediately. The remastered version in 2008 does not have this fade in.
Electric Co: We know of the 4:58 version because of the removal of "Send in the Clowns" from the original 5:23 version, but the remastered edition in 2008 edits additional portions of the song resulting in a 4:38 version (and it's not just crowd noise, both have approximately the same amount at either end).
"40" on most recordings is 3:45 in length. The "Island Masters" series of CDs in Europe adds an additional 10s of silence at the end of the track.
I've identified six unique edits of this album in my collection if you count the remaster. I believe there may be one other out there I need to address, and that's the Australian version with the edited version of "The Electric Co." to see if the edit between "I Will Follow" and "Party Girl" falls the same as the old Festival pressing...
(Guess who's working on the entry for "UABRS" in the new discography today?)
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:facemeltingemoticon:
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After reading all of Aaron's post from Dec. 9, 2012, I'm wondering . . . . . what if all these details were acquired with a vinyl record? Would it be possible to be accurate? Wouldn't it be a pain-in-the-ass to repeatedly place the record player needle onto the vinyl record in all the correct spots to ensure consistency?
I'm assuming all these details were acquired using a digital device . . . . like a CD player with a digital readout.
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yes, all aquired digitally for overall track length although for looking at differences i was using a stop watch at times so theoretically could be repeated on the vinyl. There's little actual difference in the music, just in how the track boundaries are edited and where songs stop and start, except for the edits of "Send in the Clowns", and the remaster does remove at least one small piece of Bono's chatter that I found...
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What the remaster takes out is 'I love the crowd'. After the 'edit' you hear Bono singing only the 'd' sound from 'crowd'.
They (Edge) also pumped up the volume considerably on this remaster.
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Thanks for that slaneman. I'll update the notes on that one accordingly. :)
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Aarons post would surprise me in the pre-Pro Tools (PT) era but not in the post-PT era. My guess that would be from 1991 on.
Now, producers just open up a project and edit at will so the artistic work is dynamic to serve whatever need.
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Aarons post would surprise me in the pre-Pro Tools (PT) era but not in the post-PT era. My guess that would be from 1991 on.
Now, producers just open up a project and edit at will so the artistic work is dynamic to serve whatever need.
These days there's no monkeying around with the releases at all. Whatever U2 sends out is digitally sent, and if you compare a UK release to a US release and so on they are consistant all the way through with identical track timings etc.
But when labels were making the jump to CD back in the day (Canada started producing U2 CDs in 1987) each country was left to chop up and master their own CDs. It's pretty prevalent in those early CDs. On "Boy" you get "An Cat Dubh" and "Into the Heart" split differently in the US from Europe, and not split at all in Canada. And all of the tracks vary by a few seconds here or there. You can hear the differences in levels as well. Some versions are much "louder" than others.