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Carl:

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"I can't stand the beats" - I love that line with its ambiguity. (continued by the "check/cheque" ambiguity). I am fairly sure that the "crimson nails" are to be read on two levels and it may be the beats that push these nails into Jesus' body (colouring them crimson) which Bono can't stand. However, like the rivergoat I hear an "f" rather than a "b" (although I do seem to hear the "s" at the end of the word) and "sell" is not entirely out of the question either (selling feats?)...

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Interesting.  Though I'm not sure how a girl with blood stained nails would have Jesus swinging on her neck, which makes me think it is a more modern reference.  It could possibly be a reference to either a percieved contradiction socially (ie bright red finger paint and a cross) or an allusion to blood in a more literal sense... ie those with blood stained hands who justify conflict through  christian values.  This ties in with the bullets that rip the sky, if you look at the war in Iraq from a certain standpoint.  I'm still not sure about how the music of the band (playing under the canopy of war) ties in with the girl swinging to said music... perhaps their beats are somehow wrapped up in this effort?  The interpretation doesn't seem to make sense wholistically, unless you take beats as artillery shells or something.  Of course "asking for the check" really changes depending on the line before it!

I personally shy away from interpreting the whole song in this manner, as the chorus doesn't fit (but / except showing the singer is looking to that 'someone' as giving them something beyond the vertigo of the current political climate and/or basic human condition).  It is a curent issue that causes a certain amount of uneasiness from nearly any standpoint however.

Between Two Worlds:
Girl with crimson nails: I was thinking more of two overlapping images rather than trying to mix the references. In other words I see two scenes at once. I have observed that in a poem by Ted Hughes describing the funeral of Princess Diana where he used the "Holy Mother and Her Son" image. It's probably quite common in modern poetry but I only dabble in poetry so I am talking without much knowledge.

More importantly, U2 seems to be using this technique, or at least is offering texts open to such a double take. "Until the End of the World" is maybe the best example. Is it a song about boy meets girl at a party or Jude betraying Jesus in the garden? (See Steve Stockman in Walk On: The Spiritual Journey of U2). Arguably, it can be read at both levels (but the two levels are not mixed).

If the same thing goes on in Vertigo, then we see (a) a girl with painted nails swinging to the music at a rock concert, and (b) Jesus nailed on the cross.

And it fits with the rest of the song, if one wishes. Rock music cannot change the world but it may help you to look at things differently - which is not bad given that "the jungle is your head" (rather than "it's a jungle out there").

Jesus too ( just maybe referred to as "showman" in the three mumbled lines if these are heard as an allusion to his first sign - "change it", "jars full") does not seem to have achieved much, ending up 'round someone's neck as trendy utensil rather than statement of faith.

And yet someone's love can teach us how to kneel - the audience's love for U2 and/or Jesus' love expressed in his death on the cross?

"All Because of You" may be capable of a similar double reading. But I freely admit that as a Christian (and biblical scholar), I am predisposed to hearing the lyrics this way and I am already eagerly looking forward to "Crumbs From Your Table" (another phrase from the Gospels) and "Yahweh"!

Carl:
I'm pretty familiar with the multiple UTEOTW interps, it is stronger live "we broke the bread, we drank the wine".  I can see Vertigo both ways personally, either as two separate levels or as mixed imagery.  I don't think there were any girls who nailed Jesus to the cross, nor can I see how he would be swinging around her neck unless it was on a small necklace.  A lot of lines wouldn't make much sense if you tried to take the song back to the crucifixion, ie a band playing music while bullets fly overhead... I can't think of any imagery that would correspond to this.

For a Christian interpretation I would see it more as Christ being the single thing which makes the uncertainty, superficiality, and confusion of existence worthwhile... the one thing that is pure enough to really feel above everything else, which is a part of fallen existence.  It could either be in reference to the specific time we live in (Electrical Storm, etc) or just material existence in general.  I suppose the uncertainty of the times take is enhanced by the changed line in the remixes.

I was actually thinking of writing up some interesting "fake" interpretations of the song to see how far I could take things while still keeping true to the words.  The song really leaves a lot of room for interpretation, and it would be fun.

I should be putting up some transcriptions of ABOY and COBL soon... audience recordings from TOTP so I doubt they'll be perfect, but they should at least be more accurate than Love and Peace and Miracle Drug.  Since you were there I'm guessing you'll be interested enough to take a crack at them.

sirensong984:
hello. may not be my place to comment on lyrical interpretation..but this is a very interesting discussion.  something i love about bono is that he writes songs that are so heavy, but disguises them as fluff by putting in things like "the girl with crimson nails has jesus 'round her neck.."  i think sometimes he puts things in that a) sound good and b)make a pretty picture but don't necessarily directly mean what he's getting across.  like..maybe the point from that sound just be "crimson nails" as in bloody carpenter tool..but to make it fluff enough he puts in the girl...

i think it's good he does this because, well, while i love deciphering his meanings, nobody would want to hear "another song about jesus from U2" ;)

again sorry to butt in on something that is not my domain

Carl:
No problem about that, it isn't like I have to wade through a massive amount of daily posts or anything.

But assuming that the kneeling is to God/Jesus, why in the iTunes and TOTP video does Bono look like he is being subjugated??  I suppose it could be getting rid of the ego to re-establish a connection with the "I and I" but it brings to mind the fight scene in UTEOTW.

POP had a lot of Christian themed songs that were really interesting to ponder... not just a "you are my saviour, but I'll hide it in drag" but really examaning his ambivalent views towards organized religion being Irish while still affirming his sense of spirituality.

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