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Title: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on January 02, 2015, 04:17:27 PM
I have finally found a copy of the Every Breaking Wave promo single at a (somewhat) reasonable price. I am very curious to know whether they edited the ending or just slapped the album track on a CD-R with the lead-in to California intact. If it's the latter, I guess I wasted my money.

I think I probably wasted my money anyway, since the promo is coming from Europe and probably won't get here until after the digital single is released on January 12, assuming that date holds.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on January 02, 2015, 04:26:40 PM
Radio1 Greece is the only place I can find any reference to a commercial single release. They are listing EBW as a UK single release on January 12.

http://www.radio1.gr/newmusic/new-uk-singles/
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: slaneman on January 02, 2015, 04:46:07 PM
I am very curious to know whether they edited the ending or just slapped the album track on a CD-R with the lead-in to California intact.

Do you want to know now, or would you prefer to wait?  ;)
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on January 02, 2015, 07:07:00 PM
Now would be fine.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: slaneman on January 02, 2015, 07:21:38 PM
My Itunes album version ends with that synth sound riff and goes directly into the first church bell sound of California, as you mentioned. If I turn up my PC volume all the way, I can hear a very tiny bit of that church bell at the end of the single version. It's very soft but it's there.

Is that what you were looking for? I'm certainly not an expert with discography stuff...
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on January 02, 2015, 08:32:08 PM
Yeah, that's what I was asking, whether or not they faded that transition.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: dagobah on January 07, 2015, 06:25:49 AM
On YouTube, I found the video below.
1.  Is the music in this video the same as the music on the Every Breaking Wave Single?
2.  Does anyone know the exact date it was recorded?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryB68ynGgjI

I don't know the procedure that makes the above an actual link.
I only know how to copy and paste it to this post.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on January 07, 2015, 08:13:40 AM
It was recorded last October when they were doing the promo dates in London at the BBC. It was shown on 60 Minutes in Australia but was also made available to other media outlets.

The promo single seems to just contain the album version of the song. No details on what might be on a commercial single. There's supposed to be some sort of digital release on Monday.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: dagobah on January 07, 2015, 08:52:25 AM
Aaron, thanks for the quick reply!     :)
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on January 09, 2015, 12:25:16 PM
Yeah, that's what I was asking, whether or not they faded that transition.

Thanks.

The transition is not faded on the UK promo CD, the French promo CD, or this other promo CD. 
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on January 11, 2015, 07:14:51 PM
No sign of anything on iTunes in the UK, or Qobuz yet for a new single.  Today in the UK was the date publicized on the promotional single released in the UK.  Anyone seeing anything?  It should be past midnight now.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on January 11, 2015, 07:30:44 PM
Nope, nothing on 7Digital yet either.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on January 17, 2015, 07:22:20 PM
I finally received my UK promo CD this week.

The promo version is very slightly edited from the album version:

At the end of the album version, you hear the bell and then (what sounds like) rain, which cuts off very abruptly as it is continuous with the intro to California.

At the end of the promo version, you hear the bell and then the rain, which is quickly but noticeably rolled off, then about 2 seconds of silence.

Track length is 4:12.16 for the album version and 4:15.04 for the promo version.

I would still hope that if they ever release a commercial single, they would go back to the original master tape and eliminate those transition sound effects altogether.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: yseilys (dead) on January 18, 2015, 08:30:49 AM
My E.U promo have the same details than the U.K promo
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on January 22, 2015, 06:14:09 PM
Today on Radio FM in Dublin, the host claimed Bono had sent him a new version of "Every Breaking Wave" for a first play, they hadn't even sent it around yet.  It's the acoustic version, redone in studio, with some additional instrumentation.  You can hear it here:

http://www.todayfm.com/player/listen_back/3/17634/22nd_January_2015_-_The_Ian_Dempsey_Breakfast_Show_Part_2

Skip in about 7 minutes and you'll find the preamble to playing it.  It's section 2 of the Ian Dempsey Breakfast Show.  That stream is low quality 64kbs.

Also rumours have started about the announcement of a third wave of live shows on Monday.  Maybe the single release will happen then as well?  Cross your fingers.  :0) 
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on January 23, 2015, 03:09:37 AM
I can't say that I've heard every single promo performance of EBW, but I can't place this vocal take. At first I thought it was an isolated vocal from the EMA performance, but  I think I hear some clear differences.

My guess would be it's a new studio vocal based on their recent live performance, though I assume before Bono's cycling accident. I'll be looking for it on Monday.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on January 23, 2015, 07:50:13 AM
The alternate version is being made available by various branches of Universal now.  I know of at least two branches that have started to circulate this.  I think it's a new vocal, but based off those performances in October.  He did that ending at the EMA, and also at the Bambi awards if you want to compare. 
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: God, Part II on January 23, 2015, 02:21:30 PM
Wow! It took me a little while to get used to the slower pace Bono brings to the track, but he sings each chorus like it’s the last song he’ll ever sing! I think they should stick with the album track for radio play, but God, what an amazing treat this version is for us fans! Please let this be officially released (and on CD, to boot, would be great)!
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: morgan1098 on January 23, 2015, 04:35:50 PM
They really need to put this out on a CD single. (And not just a promo CD-R.) Wishful thinking, I know.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: miryclay on January 25, 2015, 09:42:34 PM
I found another version on Stereogum

http://www.stereogum.com/1731461/u2-every-breaking-wave-new-version/mp3s/
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on January 26, 2015, 08:18:23 AM
@Miryclay - that's the alternate version that we are discussing above.  That clip is from the Today FM show, with the DJ talking over the end of the track.  Thanks for posting it.  Will save people going through the entire radio show to get to that piece.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on January 26, 2015, 09:20:25 AM
I thought surely they would post something about the new single on U2.com this morning when they announced the additional tour dates. Nothing yet, and no sign of a digital single at any of the usual outlets.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: bobni on September 15, 2015, 07:11:26 AM
Can anyone clarify this release?

http://www.discogs.com/U2-Every-Breaking-Wave/release/7471092

Also on eBay
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/U2-Every-Breaking-Wave-Promotional-Radio-CD-Universal-Songs-Innocence-Rare-/331655541532?hash=item4d3835f31c

The only versions of EBW I'm aware of are the album version and radio mix available for fanclub members.
Could this be a bootleg release? Notice the spelling errors on the white info sheet.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on September 15, 2015, 11:57:18 AM
Can anyone clarify this release?

http://www.discogs.com/U2-Every-Breaking-Wave/release/7471092

Also on eBay
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/U2-Every-Breaking-Wave-Promotional-Radio-CD-Universal-Songs-Innocence-Rare-/331655541532?hash=item4d3835f31c

The only versions of EBW I'm aware of are the album version and radio mix available for fanclub members.
Could this be a bootleg release? Notice the spelling errors on the white info sheet.

Both are fake. 
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: bobni on September 15, 2015, 01:35:58 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Aaron!
Too bad it's now listed at discogs as part of the official EBW promo's.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: morgan1098 on September 16, 2015, 06:10:21 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Aaron!
Too bad it's now listed at discogs as part of the official EBW promo's.

As far as I know, an item can only be listed as "unofficial" on Discogs if the person who created the entry lists it as such. Can other users edit the entry after the fact to reflect this?  I'm not sure.

Whatever the case, I wouldn't be surprised if the person who created this as an "official" entry on Discogs is the same person who is trying to sell it on ebay! :(

The white info sheet accompanying the Discogs entry is hilarious.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on September 17, 2015, 08:52:49 AM
The white info sheet accompanying the Discogs entry is hilarious.

(http://cdn.discogs.com/oUw8Pgym4R5piOohHavEpr260Ws=/fit-in/600x778/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-7471092-1442151428-3465.jpeg.jpg)
(https://nothingirrelevant.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/barack-obama-seems-legit.jpeg)
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: morgan1098 on September 17, 2015, 10:19:59 AM
The white info sheet accompanying the Discogs entry is hilarious.

(http://cdn.discogs.com/oUw8Pgym4R5piOohHavEpr260Ws=/fit-in/600x778/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-7471092-1442151428-3465.jpeg.jpg)
(https://nothingirrelevant.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/barack-obama-seems-legit.jpeg)

LOL. Has anyone actually heard those five tracks on the CD? Are they as bootleggy as the press release?  I'm trying to imagine how someone could stretch EBW out to almost 8 minutes in length.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on September 17, 2015, 11:25:17 AM
I've heard them.  And they are every bit as bad as the press release. 
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: bobni on September 17, 2015, 11:52:48 AM
Legit or fake, some poor soul bought the cd as the eBay auction has ended.
BTW the text on the cd is just as bad (hilarious) as the info sheet!!!
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: bobni on September 17, 2015, 12:03:41 PM
On a more serious note: Brad wrote a great article about single releases nowadays.
Us collectors might still want a physical release, unfortunately the only option is a promo cd(r).
It's hard enough already finding and collecting these promo's (for a reasonable price).
These fake promo's aren't making collecting any easier...
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: morgan1098 on September 17, 2015, 12:31:24 PM
On a more serious note: Brad wrote a great article about single releases nowadays.
Us collectors might still want a physical release, unfortunately the only option is a promo cd(r).
It's hard enough already finding and collecting these promo's (for a reasonable price).
These fake promo's aren't making collecting any easier...

Brad's article is great! Sadly it's not just singles and promos. It seems the reissue campaign has stalled as well. Deluxe versions of ATYCLB and R&H were possibilities at one point, but that doesn't seem to be the case now. Hopefully those will be resurrected some day for those of us who love the physical releases!
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Brad on September 17, 2015, 04:24:45 PM
On a more serious note: Brad wrote a great article about single releases nowadays.
Us collectors might still want a physical release, unfortunately the only option is a promo cd(r).
It's hard enough already finding and collecting these promo's (for a reasonable price).
These fake promo's aren't making collecting any easier...

Agreed. I bought EBW and SFS promos off of eBay. I'm pretty sure that the UK promos I bought were both official, but I had some trepidation about both of them until I was able to examine them myself.

I do hope that they continue with the deluxe album reissues. It  would be interesting to see some sales data from other bands that have put out deluxe remasters recently.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: morgan1098 on September 17, 2015, 04:40:30 PM
On a more serious note: Brad wrote a great article about single releases nowadays.
Us collectors might still want a physical release, unfortunately the only option is a promo cd(r).
It's hard enough already finding and collecting these promo's (for a reasonable price).
These fake promo's aren't making collecting any easier...

Agreed. I bought EBW and SFS promos off of eBay. I'm pretty sure that the UK promos I bought were both official, but I had some trepidation about both of them until I was able to examine them myself.

I do hope that they continue with the deluxe album reissues. It  would be interesting to see some sales data from other bands that have put out deluxe remasters recently.

Yes, it's not like other bands and labels have abandoned reissues. Universal has put out some epic box sets from some of U2's contemporaries like Tears for Fears and Simple Minds--and Warner Bros is putting out a 5CD a-ha Hunting High and Low box this Friday. The TFF and Simple Minds packaging are clearly based on the boxes that were done for Joshua Tree and Unforgettable Fire. So I'm guessing there would be interest from Universal in putting out more U2 boxes, but maybe the interest from the band isn't there? The 2CD sets had pretty extravagant packaging and that might have hurt sales. Maybe more bare bones packaging and a lower price point is the answer?
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: God, Part II on September 17, 2015, 04:53:53 PM
Yes, it's not like other bands and labels have abandoned reissues.I'm guessing there would be interest from Universal in putting out more U2 boxes, but maybe the interest from the band isn't there? The 2CD sets had pretty extravagant packaging and that might have hurt sales. Maybe more bare bones packaging and a lower price point is the answer?

Total conjecture on my part, but considering each of the prior reissues were overseen with The Edge's devoted attention, I've always assumed that as the recording for SONGS OF INNOCENCE, and planning for its attendant tour, starting snowballing, Edge was not able to extend himself to provide the proper attention to the reissues that they are due, so it was either hand them over to outside ears and tastes to complete, or put them on the backburner until Edge is able to attend to them properly. Personally, since CD audio quality had pretty well been refined by the mid-90s, the only album remaining that has a desperate sonic need for a reissue is RATTLE AND HUM, but I would of course like to see all the outliers given the reissue treatment (including the Grammy-winning ZOOROPA, which was inexplicably given the red-headed stepchild treatment in the ACHTUNG BABY deluxe box), mainly for the chance to encounter more dusty, unreleased studio oddities and gems.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: morgan1098 on September 17, 2015, 05:35:53 PM
Yes, it's not like other bands and labels have abandoned reissues.I'm guessing there would be interest from Universal in putting out more U2 boxes, but maybe the interest from the band isn't there? The 2CD sets had pretty extravagant packaging and that might have hurt sales. Maybe more bare bones packaging and a lower price point is the answer?

Total conjecture on my part, but considering each of the prior reissues were overseen with The Edge's devoted attention, I've always assumed that as the recording for SONGS OF INNOCENCE, and planning for its attendant tour, starting snowballing, Edge was not able to extend himself to provide the proper attention to the reissues that they are due, so it was either hand them over to outside ears and tastes to complete, or put them on the backburner until Edge is able to attend to them properly. Personally, since CD audio quality had pretty well been refined by the mid-90s, the only album remaining that has a desperate sonic need for a reissue is RATTLE AND HUM, but I would of course like to see all the outliers given the reissue treatment (including the Grammy-winning ZOOROPA, which was inexplicably given the red-headed stepchild treatment in the ACHTUNG BABY deluxe box), mainly for the chance to encounter more dusty, unreleased studio oddities and gems.

That's certainly a plausible theory and I hope you're right! Like you, I saw the casual inclusion of Zooropa in the Achtung Baby box--sort of as an afterthought--as a definite sign not to expect more reissues any time soon. There's so much they could have done with a Zooropa deluxe set.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: Aaron on September 18, 2015, 06:43:53 AM
I have spoken with someone who has worked directly on the remasters project and I can confirm, that at the current time they are not actively working on reissue projects.  The band have chosen to focus more on getting new material out, instead of looking back right now.  It's not just the Edge who has been involved in those projects.  A lot of the supplemental material has had others in the band involved, especially Bono who has recorded new vocals for a number of those tracks.  They are pushing on getting the next two albums finished up I'm told. 

That being said, the next album in the queue wasn't Zooropa anyway.  It was suggested to me that they were looking at doing an original collection of older material, and that "Pop" would be the next project they would turn to if they did another album.  Rattle and Hum continued to be tied up in issues with Paramount who owns the rights to the movie and was posing an issue to figure it out. 

Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: God, Part II on September 18, 2015, 08:57:12 AM
Rattle and Hum continued to be tied up in issues with Paramount who owns the rights to the movie and was posing an issue to figure it out.

Strange. The only way I could see that being an issue is if the band:

a) wanted to include a DVD/Blu-ray of the film in with the package (hopefully remastered, since the current Blu-ray has compressed Dolby Digital 5.1 sound)
b) wanted to include the copious outtake footage from the filming of the movie (which I own on an epic set of four bootleg DVDs)
c) wanted to expand the CD album with the tracks that only appear in the film

Hmmm...now that I've typed that all out, that sounds positively rapturous so by all means, U2, you keep massaging Paramount's shoulders! I can wait for something that awesome! On the other hand, what I do not need is a mid-2010s reimagining of POP.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: MartinTexas on September 23, 2015, 04:24:35 PM
I still hope for proper Zooropa & R&H remaster. In 2013 was great occasion for R&H, but next is on 2018.... I think they should't add a R&H movie to the box - better way is to add a R&H Tour DVD - Dublin or Sydney (my best).

FOr Zooropa is strange thing (or better for us) - that they didn't release in AB Box any studio/Live B-Sides from that era. There was only few remixes. Even the 2CD version could be great with some new material.

And at last I hope also that some day they also pick up Passengers  ::) (it's possible that they add it to Pop Box as adding Zooropa to AB Box - but I preffer 2CD version as well).
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: God, Part II on September 24, 2015, 11:25:48 AM
FOr Zooropa is strange thing (or better for us) - that they didn't release in AB Box any studio/Live B-Sides from that era. There was only few remixes. Even the 2CD version could be great with some new material.

I dunno. Seems like they could have an entire bonus CD called "All the 'Lemon' Remixes".
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: morgan1098 on September 24, 2015, 01:14:11 PM
It will never happen but I'd love to see a "U2 and Brian Eno 93-95" box that includes all the Zooroopa and Passengers stuff plus outtakes and demos and alternate versions and remixes, etc. Larry would never allow it.
Title: Re: Every Breaking Wave Single
Post by: God, Part II on September 25, 2015, 11:19:22 AM
It will never happen...Larry would never allow it.

Who does he think he is?! The founder of the band?!

Oh...wait...